Could it be any more obvious that Brexit is manipulated?

[Shushersbedamned]

Norway is in the European Economic Area. Switzerland's an EFTA signatory. Both are in the Schengen Area. The UK will not be a member of any.

Well it all remains to be seen. Personally I don't think the UK will ever part.

 

[Altfish]

Exactly.

I give up, I don't understand you.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

I give up, I don't understand you.

You asked what uk will gain. I told one thing you can gain in UK and insinuated that that gain won't be likely to reach you.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

You asked what uk will gain. I told one thing you can gain in UK and insinuated that that gain won't be likely to reach you.

I might have more luck understanding what you are saying in your first language, but I doubt it.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

I might have more luck understanding what you are saying in your first language, but I doubt it.

Or perhaps the problem is lack of information.

 

[Altfish]

You asked what uk will gain. I told one thing you can gain in UK and insinuated that that gain won't be likely to reach you.

Is that a benefit after we leave the EU? It is not clear what you are talking about?

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Is that a benefit after we leave the EU? It is not clear what you are talking about?

Yes hence it in answer to your question... ain't I quoted it?

 

[Estro Felino]

I will answer the question, they are solid trade partners (?) BUT they have no influence over the rules of the trading block.
UK will be similar we will pay monies to be a member of some quasi trading block and have to abide by all the rules made by the block but have no influence over them.

Ok...let's say the European Commission makes a law that forbids every EU member state to conclude bilateral trade treaties with the UK after Brexit, will you acknowledge that the EU is just a criminal organization?

States' decisional power is practically absent in the EU...

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Ok...let's say the European Commission makes a law that forbids every EU member state to conclude bilateral trade treaties with the UK after Brexit, will you acknowledge that the EU is just a criminal organization?

States' decisional power is practically absent in the EU...

It was told a million times to UK. If they leave the European union they cannot expect to have any privileges

 

[Audie]

Certain part of the right wing press and politicians do indeed see Europe as 'something to be avoided' but then go on holiday there and buy a European car.

I hope the UK comes out of this relatively unharmed but I fear the worse. Just hope I'm wrong.

Me too. But there is a deep history there, not just now, not just "few right wing".

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Ok...let's say the European Commission makes a law that forbids every EU member state to conclude bilateral trade treaties with the UK after Brexit, will you acknowledge that the EU is just a criminal organization?

States' decisional power is practically absent in the EU...

That law already exists.
We nor the other states can make bilateral agreements with other countries. That is basic EU law that has always existed.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Me too. But there is a deep history there, not just now, not just "few right wing".

If it all gets too bad I can always move to Ireland, I qualify through my father for a Passport and as a dual citizen and by extension of the EU too. .... A lot of UK people are also in this boat.

 

[Altfish]

Ok...let's say the European Commission makes a law that forbids every EU member state to conclude bilateral trade treaties with the UK after Brexit, will you acknowledge that the EU is just a criminal organization?

States' decisional power is practically absent in the EU...

Well since the EU trades together and one of the reasons we want to leave is to do bilateral agreements with rest of the world. It stands to reason that we aren't going to be able to do bilateral agreements with individual EU countries when we leave. So no, that is the rule now, will be the rule when we leave, so no it is not a criminal organisation.
We cannot get a better deal with EU countries than we currently have - it is a Free Trade organisation, you can't get better than free trade.

 

[Altfish]

Yes hence it in answer to your question... ain't I quoted it?

Still don't understand you?? Are you trolling me?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Manipulated by who? For what purpose? Fill us in; we'd love to know.

Cambridge Analytica for one. The affluent individuals & corporate bodies are others who would benefit from having a race-to-the-bottom low wage, low tax economy where they can take the cream off the top and leave the dregs for the rest of us. Other parties who wish to see a part of the EU devolve into an isolationist right-wing wet dream.

Oh and the Vote Leave campaign.

Good, because I don't want to end up in a federal Europe.

The irony here is that by leaving the EU we actually make the creation of a federal Europe more likely because we'll no longer be one of the staunchest anti-federal voices in the Parliament. We'll lose our veto over any & all measures which could be taken to create a federal Europe.

Russia.

Agreed. Them and more likely other parties.

 

[Sunstone]

I get that. I would not want the USA to be part of a one nation north America either.

God save the Canadians and Mexicans if that ever were to happen! Trump would still want to build his wall, though. And then the Mexicans might actually support it.

 

[Sunstone]

I'll go out on a limb here and state that I suspect the thousand or so independent economists who warned against Brexit will most likely be proved true in time. Just a hunch.

 

[Sunstone]

As a European person, I can only witness that the EU is nothing but a bankers' mafia that forces the countries to remain in the Union through threats, blackmailing, financial retaliations..etc...

Do you know of nations united any other way than through threats, blackmailing, financial retaliations -- in addition to other means?

 

[England my lionheart]

hey it's not my fault that the English have horrid food..I had heard that France wanted the English out based on the insult to taste buds.
I probably will get a rules violation just posting a picture of it. I Mean really cake in a can? Disgusting.... although the name hilarious.
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Consider yourself fortunate that you haven't had a spotted dick

 

[Sunstone]

Consider yourself fortunate that you haven't had a spotted dick

Cecil Rhodes, the founder of Rhodesia, is somewhere quoted as saying, "People suppose I left England to seek my fortune. The truth is, I had to get away from bloody English cold lamb."