Subduction Zone
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Please, you know that is not true. You have only demonstrated that by your own standards that you are not a "True Christian". You have to deny the Bible to keep your beliefs going, Now that is truly amazing.
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Please, you know that is not true. You have only demonstrated that by your own standards that you are not a "True Christian". You have to deny the Bible to keep your beliefs going, Now that is truly amazing.
Faithofchristian
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Heck you wouldn't know what a true Christian is, of one was standing right in front of you.
You sure do alot of critizing, for a person that has no understanding of what their talking about.
Oh by the way, you got me back ROFL
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
Yeah and it's to bad if you had any knowledge about the bible.unto which you do not have.
Hey you know what, it's starting to rain out again, better cover your parade, it's getting rained on again.lol
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Seriously I would know far better than you would. At least I understand the Bible and can prove it.
Your fear tells us that you know that you are wrong.
Seriously, what makes you think that only a Christian can understand your book of myths? There is a big difference between understanding the Bible and drinking the Kool-Aid.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
And once again you break the Ninth Commandment.
I gave you a challenge earlier, you ran away from it again. First I will define what I mean by the "Ten Commandments":
The Ten Commandments are the Laws written by God or Moses in stone, and are called the "Ten Commandments" by the Bible. Are you willing to take a quick test to see if you understand them better than I do? A simple yes or no answer will do. When your answer is given you must be ready to support it with verses from the Bible. See you in a couple of hours, you can decide if you know your Commandments by then.
Woberts
The Perfumed Seneschal
This is going to be fun.
JustWondering
Jerk
The bible has demonstrably false information in it as well as many contradictions. It is not a reliable source of information on anything. The only part of the bible that deals with this debate is genesis. Genesis has god letting Adam and Eve walk around naked which is evil (according to the bible itself). Genesis has a talking snake. Genesis has god putting the tree of knowledge right in front of Adam and Eve when they don't know the difference between good and evil (they haven't eaten from the tree yet) and is surprised when they eat from the tree! Genesis has the earth existing before the sun and stars! It is all obvious mythology, that shouldn't be taken any more seriously than any other mythology.
It's not? Then why does the Bible say "From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon"? Bible Gateway passage: Ezekiel 26 - New International Version
7 “For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army."
So sometime in the future "the Sovereign Lord" is going to revive the long dead Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and bring him against Tyre with horses and chariots, horsemen and a great army? That's what the Bible says... Bible Gateway passage: Ezekiel 26 - New International Version
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Faithofchristian
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The only reason you say, (the bible has demonstrably false information in it as well as many contradiction)
is because you don't understand anything about the bible to clearly to put anything in the Bible together to make any sense of it.
Therefore is no demonstrably false information nor is there any contradictions in the bible as you say there is.
So where in the Bible does it say that being naked is evil ?
When you are born, your naked right, so how is naked evil ?
First of all there is no where in Genesis that said anything about a snake. So where or how do you come by a snake.
Eve said nothing about a snake, Eve said the Serpent, who do you suppose the Serpent is ?
Had you seek out the truth, you would haved found in the book of
Revelation 12:9 The Serpent being the Devil, and Satan himself.
In your speaking of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, How many times do you suppose that Adam pass by the tree and didn't take of it, before Eve came ?
Have you any idea what the tree of knowledge of good and evil even who it Represents ?
Further more there is the tree of Life, Who do you suppose Represents the tree of Life?
You said ( Genesis has God putting the tree of knowledge of good and evil right in front of Adam and Eve when they don't know the difference between Good and evil)
As to how do you know this for sure.
Oh you will say, will there's nothing written that God told them, So that leaves you to say whatever you want.
Let's say when you were little, didn't your parents ever tell you not to touch the fire or something that's hot that it will burn you. Seeing how you never experienced what a fire is or something that is hot, my guess, as any child would do, is try and touch it, to see what will actually happen and the child found out real quick it does burn.
So in like manner, God told Adam and Eve not to touch the tree of knowledge of good and evil, But then the Serpent ( Satan ) comes along convincing Eve that nothing will happen to go ahead and touch it and eat of it. And guess what ( Bam !! ) Eve just got burned and then Eve gives to Adam and now ( Bam !! ) Adam got burned as well.
Further more the tree of knowledge of good and evil is not a literal tree as you suppose it is, the tree of knowledge of good and evil Represents the Serpent which is Satan being confined to the middle of the Garden of Eden. Satan did not have free exercise to go about in the garden of eden as he pleased.
Maybe you should search out who exactly the tree of knowledge of good and evil and the tree of Life Represents before you make any accusations.
That's right the earth was already there, before the sun and the moon and stars and anything else was created on the earth.
All it says in Genesis 1:1--"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"
It doesn't say when, only in the beginning, When ever that was.
Therefore the earth was already there.
Which you are right about.
Maybe instead of you just Wondering about things in the Bible, maybe you should search out and find out about certain things in the Bible, before you go saying anything.
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Woberts
The Perfumed Seneschal
Then apparently you haven't read the bible.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
Look of course we know that Nebuchadrezzar and Alexander the Great, is not alive to day, they have been died for close to 3000 years.
And we know that the Babylon that was back then is not here to day.
The Babylon that's spoken of in the book of Revelation, is not literally Babylon, But the spirit of that Babylon is what we are dealing with to day, that's leading people into confusion.
Where as back in Daniel the Prophet day, they had the literal Babylon to deal with.which was leading people into confusion.
Where as for us to day, we have the spirit of that Babylon to deal with to day. Which is leading people into confusion.
But first, do you understand the difference between what is Literal and Spiritual ?
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
You can't be serious,
How in the world are, horses and chariots and horsemen, exactly how are these to defeat the Military of to day ?
So your not making any sense.
Have you figured that out Yet ?
Go Figure.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
Apparently you know nothing about the bible.
Had you studied the history of the bible, that back in 1611, those men of king James, didn't have the necessary tools to translate the Hebrew and Greek and Latin into the English language.
As we have to day, we have to day many such tools to help us in the Translation of different Languages.
We have what is called The Strong's Concordance of the Hebrew and Greek language into English and what is called the Companion bible, which has the Hebrew and Greek language into English. That can help people to better Translate the Hebrew and Greek language into English. Unto which they didn't have back in 1611.
Where as back then, they did the best they could with what limited tools they had.
Seeing how they didn't have the necessary tools to translate languages. Many words got lost in Translation.
Where as to day, when we come across words of mis-translations, we have the necessary tools to translate them in there right way.
So when you or others say that there's contradictions, there is no contradictions, only that some words got lost in the translation of words. All because those back in 1611 did not have the necessary tools to translate Languages with.
Therefore you can not take to days technology and try to imply it to those back in 1611.
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Yes. The passage says: "From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army." It is obviously meant quite literally. God isn't talking about a spiritual North or a spiritual Tyre or a spritual Nebuchadnezzar or a spiritual king or a spiritual Babylon or spiritual horses or spiritual chariots or spiritual horsemen or a spritual army here.
Precisely. But that is what God says about the future. "From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army." It hasn't happened yet so how is his horses and horsemen and chariots going to defeat Tyre in the future?
How can you possibly state there are no contradictions? That would require that you have read the original Bible in the original language and understood the exact original meaning of every word...
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
That was in reference to back then, but as for Babylon it's self, There is the literal Babylon and there is the spiritual Babylon.
But seeing that you have no idea between the difference what is Literal and what is Spiritual.
It all adds up. Why you can not see the difference between the two.
What is Literal and what is Spiritual.