Why does God abort so many fetuses?

[Tmac]

Sounds a lot like traditional Catholics.

Now, this is a shot.

 

[Shiranui117]

Now, this is a shot.

It's a guilty pleasure of mine. Forgive me.

 

[pearl]

Fortunately many Catholics ignore the RCC's stupid rules on birth control, but even that church allows abstinence, unlike the Quiverfull Sect!

Even Francis has stated that 'go forth and multiply' doesn't mean that 'Catholics should multiply like rabbits'.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

We did it to ourselves with the Fall. We could have become more than the merely natural animals we were and are, but we rejected God's offer.

Your God sounds like a child with a bad temperament.

 

[Shiranui117]

Your God sounds like a child with a bad temperament. How can you believe in such trash?

God's a temperamental child for letting us reap the consequences of our actions? It's trash to believe that humanity chose to go with the natural order of things (including suffering, disease and death) rather than choosing communion and life with God?

 

[Quintessence]

Why do the gods abort so many human fetuses? I don't see the point in asking the question. From my perspective, the gods are/govern all things. It's impossible for the gods to be uninvolved in anything; the gods are basically reality itself and all of its principles and laws. Abortions for humans and other organisms are part of how things are. There's not much more to be said.

 

[Scott C.]

Between 10 and 25 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage.

A Breakdown of Miscarriage Rates by Week

Do you believe there is a God?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

But what the person said wasn't a myth but on an intelligent objective observation not meant to denigrate nor raise up. Why did you take it as an attack?

I took nothing as an attack.
But The genesis examples given are myths.

 

[Jainarayan]

God is not involved

This.

 

[leibowde84]

We did it to ourselves with the Fall. We could have become more than the merely natural animals we were and are, but we rejected God's offer.

I didn't. I'm assuming neither did you. So, why are we being blamed for the actions of our ancestors. Is God really that unreasonable?

 

[Altfish]

Do you believe there is a God?

No

 

[Quetzal]

We did it to ourselves with the Fall. We could have become more than the merely natural animals we were and are, but we rejected God's offer.

I despise this idea. The thought that I am somehow responsible for one persons action that occurred so far before I was even a consideration is nonsense.

 

[Scott C.]

No

Your question doesn't make sense to me then. Did you mean to ask "I believe there is no God, as how is it possible than an omnipotent and loving God would allow unborn fetuses to die in the womb?" I can give my perspective on why a loving God allows suffering, if that's what you're asking.

 

[George-ananda]

Why does God abort so many fetuses?

Aborting is different than dying. (Dying is a part of nature for everything.)

 

[Brickjectivity]

Why does God abort so many fetuses?

Between 10 and 25 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage.

A Breakdown of Miscarriage Rates by Week

It is a sideways criticism aimed at Biblical literalism. I'm not even sure that there are any people here on the site that are Bible literalists, and why not put 'Bible literalists' into the title?

 

[Shiranui117]

I didn't. I'm assuming neither did you. So, why are we being blamed for the actions of our ancestors. Is God really that unreasonable?

I despise this idea. The thought that I am somehow responsible for one persons action that occurred so far before I was even a consideration is nonsense.

You two are absolutely correct. We are not held responsible for Adam's and Eve's sin. However, their choice determined the direction of those who came after them. Americans today had nothing whatsoever to do with the American Revolution, yet we live in a reality determined by the decisions of our forebears, and how they thought and acted influences what we think and do in turn.

 

[idav]

It is a sideways criticism aimed at Biblical literalism. I'm not even sure that there are any people here on the site that are Bible literalists, and why not put 'Bible literalists' into the title?

That definitely is an argument against Bible literiam but then again it also makes me think of the literalism of catholic dogma where some of the more dogmatic adherents don't allow use of condoms or birth control. Religions that have such views consider abortion murder, yet god/nature is allowed to have much higher rates of death. I see little difference in natures horrible birth rates and humans contributing to that horrible stat.

 

[etherjaromomni]

To the OP's question:

I don't necessarily believe that God causes a fetus to abort (there is a caveat which I'll get to). I don't believe that God controls any aspect of our lives. I believe that God gives us agency to choose. Sometimes our choices are what cause the fetus to abort. Sometimes it's just the natural course of things.

Now on to that caveat. The idea that God is a loving being (which I personally believe He is) does not jive with the idea that he would cause a fetus to die. In a seeming juxtaposition (as some believe), a loving God wouldn't let a fetus die, either, right?

Well, not so fast. If you believe, as I do, that God is a loving being; and, if you believe, as I do, that an unborn fetus has no chance to make any choice, it is therefore impossible for an unborn fetus to sin. And if impossible to sin, it follows that it would be utterly unjust for God to apply the effects of the Fall to such an one as this. If the Fall doesn't apply, than it follows that an unborn fetus is perfect at the moment of death. Therefore it follows that the final destination of an unborn fetus could only be the same (if God is just) as that of other perfect beings (e.g. Christ). From this perspective I say that those infants who die without the burden of having to go through the travails of this life are the most blessed of all, because they got a free pass straight to the most coveted destination in all of Christianity.

Now doesn't that make me envious? Not at all. I figure they must have been some pretty good kids before they were born to have earned that right. Me? I was probably as much a deviant then as I am now, and will have to do all I can to make good choices, relying thereafter upon His grace, justice and mercy.

As a final footnote, my personal belief is that the Fall does not apply to anyone who is unable to fully understand the consequences of their choices, which includes young children and those with certain mental conditions. As to what age a person becomes accountable is up for debate, and personally I think it is an individual matter.

 

[columbus]

If you believe, as I do, that God is a loving being; and, if you believe, as I do, that an unborn fetus has no chance to make any choice, it is therefore impossible for an unborn fetus to sin. And if impossible to sin, it follows that it would be utterly unjust for God to apply the effects of the Fall to such an one as this. If the Fall doesn't apply, than it follows that an unborn fetus is perfect at the moment of death. Therefore it follows that the final destination of an unborn fetus could only be the same (if God is just) as that of other perfect beings (e.g. Christ). From this perspective I say that those infants who die without the burden of having to go through the travails of this life are the most blessed of all, because they got a free pass straight to the most coveted destination in all of Christianity.

So,
therefor abortion is the perfect parenting technique if the goal is making sure your children wind up in Heaven?
I don't usually get a positive response to this assertion from religious people.
Tom

 

[InChrist]

Has anyone come across the insane Christian sect called the, 'Quiverfulls', who believe that all children are a blessing from god and they should never use any form of birth control, having as many children as god sends them.

If god is responsible it isn't choosy about who has kids, what about those have been abused and killed by their evil parents/

I have heard of the "Quiverfull" movement and have known some who have had that mindset. It is often closely related to Patriarchy. Both have some very real issues which I think are unbiblical and have opened the door to legitimizing (in their minds), controlling, abusive behavior in some men who begin to see themselves as the ultimate authority and king of their family.

"Patriarchy is a sneaky beast, and it definitely has some good aspects, but more so it gives abusive men the perfect cover up for continuing to abuse their families. Patriarchy is very much of an outward picture belief system where a lot of pressure is put on everyone doing the same thing, “looking” the same way, or believing the same thing. Home schooling, women being baby making machines, and practically being chained to the stove, daughters never going to college, quiverfull mindset of having as many children as possible, sons carrying on their father’s business, or never going to college as well, and fathers being in supreme authority over their families are very common things among patriarchal/quiverfull families. The fathers having absolute authority over their families with no one they are accountable to is what enables the abusers."
Patriarchy in Action: Caleigh’s Story