"Humans Still Evolving, Large-Scale Study of Genetic Data Shows"

[ChristineM]

In other news, an expensive and elaborate study also proved that gravity still exists too!!

It is not expensive to drop your coffee.

 

[Sanzbir]

It is not expensive to drop your coffee.

Nor does one need an expensive setup to show that evolution is surprisingly still a thing that exists.

 

[ChristineM]

Nor does one need an expensive setup to show that evolution is surprisingly still a thing that exists.

No surprise, evolution has been happening for almost 4 billion years, there is no reason for it change because some people can't grasp the timescales.

Dna research is expensive in qualifications, time and equipment. It may seem frivolous but many off shoots of dna research have become medical practice, thus extending the average human lifespan

 

[Deeje]

Dna research is expensive in qualifications, time and equipment.

It may seem frivolous but many off shoots of dna research have become medical practice, thus extending the average human lifespan

What medical practice is extending the average human lifespan by the study of DNA?

By this expression are we glossing over the fact that so many people today rely on an ever increasing and ever more expensive regimen of pharmaceutical drug therapy to survive past the old "three score and ten"?

Does it rule out the hundreds of thousands who succumb to cancer and heart disease or the epidemic of obesity and its sugar-addicted hand maiden, type 2 diabetes?

Are we talking about frail old bodies taking up space in nursing homes because science has found a way to keep them breathing, but not actually living?

It seems to me that the first part of your statement is the only part that is correct. The second part sounds a bit delusional TBH .

 

[Hockeycowboy]

evolution has been happening for almost 4 billion years

Really? That long? I thought single-celled organisms were the only life for 3.4 billion? Until the Ediacaran/PreCambrian?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I don't know. Evolution depends on survival pressure. Humans have the least survival pressure on Earth.

If anything, we're evolving to be more over weight and more idiotic.

Just an opinion...

Yeah, wasn’t that what happened to the humans in “Wall-E”? Aided - or degraded, however you wanna look at it - by their technology.

 

[Valjean]

Really? That long? I thought single-celled organisms were the only life for 3.4 billion? Until the Ediacaran/PreCambrian?

Single celled organisms don't evolve?

 

[Mister Silver]

It doesn't surprise me that someone shows up for the anti-evolution spiel.

 

[Mister Silver]

What medical practice is extending the average human lifespan by the study of DNA?

Science, my dear. It's the all the rage.

By this expression are we glossing over the fact that so many people today rely on an ever increasing and ever more expensive regimen of pharmaceutical drug therapy to survive past the old "three score and ten"?

I blame the government in cohorts with the pharmaceutical agents dishing out opioids. "Religion is the opiate of the masses"; no surprise as far as I'm concerned.

Does it rule out the hundreds of thousands who succumb to cancer and heart disease or the epidemic of obesity and its sugar-addicted hand maiden, type 2 diabetes?

I blame a country that doesn't pay people enough to the point where they rely upon cheap fast food restaurants to meet their hunger needs.

Are we talking about frail old bodies taking up space in nursing homes because science has found a way to keep them breathing, but not actually living?

Well, why not send them off on a glacier like the Eskimo do.

It seems to me that the first part of your statement is the only part that is correct. The second part sounds a bit delusional TBH .

It seems to me that I just schooled you.

 

[ChristineM]

What medical practice is extending the average human lifespan by the study of DNA?

By this expression are we glossing over the fact that so many people today rely on an ever increasing and ever more expensive regimen of pharmaceutical drug therapy to survive past the old "three score and ten"?

Does it rule out the hundreds of thousands who succumb to cancer and heart disease or the epidemic of obesity and its sugar-addicted hand maiden, type 2 diabetes?

Are we talking about frail old bodies taking up space in nursing homes because science has found a way to keep them breathing, but not actually living?

It seems to me that the first part of your statement is the only part that is correct. The second part sounds a bit delusional TBH .

Here are about 3 million articles on how dna research has aided medical science. Feel free to poopoo them if they upset your sensibilities.

The 3 score and 10 was pretty much baloney until quite recently. Medical research including DNA research has doubled your life span in the last 150+ years

Work s progressing on cancers, this i know for sure, 10 years ago my husband would be dead, now he is expected to live at least 15 moire years. One thing for sure, all those who said they'd prey for him did no god, but medical science has.

Your compassion for old age does you credit, remember, one day it could be you. What's would your opinion be then i wonder?

You opinion is not required thanks.

Edit, just thought I'd add a chart for the last 2000 years

 

[Revoltingest]

"In a study analyzing the genomes of 210,000 people in the United States and Britain, researchers at Columbia University find that the genetic variants linked to Alzheimer's disease and heavy smoking are less frequent in people with longer lifespans, suggesting that natural selection is weeding out these unfavorable variants in both populations.

Researchers further find that sets of genetic mutations that predispose people to heart disease, high cholesterol, obesity, and asthma, also appear less often in people who lived longer and whose genes are therefore more likely to be passed down and spread through the population.

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This isn't at all convincing. It merely shows a genetic basis for longer lives in some people.
Longer life doesn't mean increasing gene frequency. This is because reproduction happens
in earlier stages of life, when heart disease, smoking, & other dysfunctional behaviors & traits
don't interfere with whelping out spawn.

 

[ChristineM]

Really? That long? I thought single-celled organisms were the only life for 3.4 billion? Until the Ediacaran/PreCambrian?

Note i said "almost" you seem to have ignored that..

Prokaryotes the first single-celled microorganism
lived almost 4 billion years ago, they evolved into what we are now. If you want to argue evolution please learn some of the history of evolution

 

[Altfish]

In the UK I'm a member of the National Trust, a charity that helps restore and maintain our heritage, including old houses.
If you visit any of their Tudor Houses you are frequently ducking to get through doors and to stop you banging your head on beams. That is because humans have evolved to be taller in the last 500-years.

 

[Revoltingest]

In the UK I'm a member of the National Trust, a charity that helps restore and maintain our heritage, including old houses.
If you visit any of their Tudor Houses you are frequently ducking to get through doors and to stop you banging your head on beams. That is because humans have evolved to be taller in the last 500-years.

Improved nutrition & health services is another explanation.

Hey, guys...I'm all for evolution.
But let's be careful about the science of it.

 

[Altfish]

Improved nutrition & health services is another explanation.

Hey, guys...I'm all for evolution.
But let's be careful about the science of it.

Not sure how improved health service makes you taller? Can you explain.
Also, if nutrition does improve, isn't getting taller (and height being a preferred trait) part of the evolution process? But then I'm just a dumb engineer, what do I know.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not sure how improved health service makes you taller? Can you explain.
Also, if nutrition does improve, isn't getting taller (and height being a preferred trait) part of the evolution process? But then I'm just a dumb engineer, what do I know.

From one dumb engineer (to another), height is strongly linked to good diet as a young'n.
I'd offer links to evidence, but I'm too lazy....& I have 14 alerts to address.
Where's @painted wolf when we need her!

 

[metis]

Studies show that even amongst wealthy families then and now, we are living longer and growing taller here in the west.

It's sorta funny that if one actually looks at the armor that knights of old used to wear, most men in western Europe today wouldn't get close to fitting in them, and I'm not talking about obesity.

 

[Jose Fly]

I see our resident Jehovah's Witnesses have resurrected an old thread. Things must not be going well for them in other threads.

As I noted earlier, one thing's for sure......they do know how to play this forum.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Single celled organisms don't evolve?

Is that what you got out of my post? Or are you purposely employing a strawman? Because that’s what you’re doing. I didn’t say that at all.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

From one dumb engineer (to another), height is strongly linked to good diet as a young'n.
I'd offer links to evidence, but I'm too lazy....& I have 14 alerts to address.
Where's @painted wolf when we need her!

Or, bad diet....I think the hormones they add to chicken and other meat (veggies, too, maybe?), to increase growth, are affecting us in the same way.