Orthodox More Honest about Scripture?

[idav]

Are orthodox religions more honest about what their scriptures say?

I was talking with an atheist friend one day and they said that Christian Fundamentalists are more honest about what thier scriptures are saying in particular, young earth creationists. I can appreciate the honesty as well, it is quite refreshing, even if I were opposed to some of the theology or morality that might come out of it.

Thoughts?

In case anyone needs a definition of orthodox.

1. (of a person or their views, especially religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved:

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I thoight this was going to be about Orthodox Christians, not fundies. I don't find literalist fundies to be orthodox. They're a relatively new movement.

 

[idav]

I thoight this was going to be about Orthodox Christians, not fundies. I don't find literalist fundies to be orthodox. They're a relatively new movement.

I mean it to be any Orthodox like Catholics first Vatican for example. Orthodox Judaism?

 

[idav]

I take it these orthodox churches take the book of Revealtions literally.
ORTHODOX AND VATICAN AGREEMENT

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I take it these orthodox churches take the book of Revealtions literally.
ORTHODOX AND VATICAN AGREEMENT

No, Catholicism and Orthodoxy does not take Revelation literally.

Preterism - Wikipedia

 

[idav]

No, Catholicism and Orthodoxy does not take Revelation literally.

Preterism - Wikipedia

Why wouldn't they?
Book of Revelation - OrthodoxWiki

 

[DavidFirth]

Are orthodox religions more honest about what their scriptures say?

I was talking with an atheist friend one day and they said that Christian Fundamentalists are more honest about what thier scriptures are saying in particular, young earth creationists. I can appreciate the honesty as well, it is quite refreshing, even if I were opposed to some of the theology or morality that might come out of it.

Thoughts?

In case anyone needs a definition of orthodox.

1. (of a person or their views, especially religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved:

The only thing that matters is what their scriptures say, not how fundamental they are about them.

 

[idav]

The only thing that matters is what their scriptures say, not how fundamental they are about them.

Theology must have things that are fundamental, orthodox tends to go by what scripts say.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Why wouldn't they?
Book of Revelation - OrthodoxWiki

What do you mean by "literally"? If you mean pre-trib rapture, Jesus reigning for a thousand years on earth, and all that, no. That's a modern interpretation.

 

[DavidFirth]

Theology must have things that are fundamental, orthodox tends to go by what scripts say.

That's religion. I don't like religion. I love Christ. What He said and did is all that really matters. What people outside the Bible think about it does not interest me in the least.

 

[idav]

What do you mean by "literally"? If you mean pre-trib rapture, Jesus reigning for a thousand years on earth, and all that, no. That's a modern interpretation.

The link says "most traditions is believed to cover those events which surround the end of the world, and the Last Judgement."

That sounds commmon.

Do I mean dragon heads and blood moons, gosh, I sure hope not.

 

[idav]

That's religion. I don't like religion. I love Christ. What He said and did is all that really matters. What people outside the Bible think about it does not interest me in the least.

Ok ao you believe Genesis through Revelation. Do you take them literally? The reason I bring up the topic is whether people take in the not so pleasant parts of the Bible as literal, like with specifically those two books Genesis and Revelation.

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't think attachment to the literal text of any scripture has much of a positive correlation with honesty by any reasonable understanding of that word.

 

[DavidFirth]

Ok ao you believe Genesis through Revelation. Do you take them literally? The reason I bring up the topic is whether people take in the not so pleasant parts of the Bible as literal, like with specifically those two books Genesis and Revelation.

I try to understand it how the Spirit of God intends for me to understand it. The problems come in when people try to interpret it the way they intend for you to understand it, which may not be right.

 

[shunyadragon]

Are orthodox religions more honest about what their scriptures say?

I was talking with an atheist friend one day and they said that Christian Fundamentalists are more honest about what thier scriptures are saying in particular, young earth creationists. I can appreciate the honesty as well, it is quite refreshing, even if I were opposed to some of the theology or morality that might come out of it.

Thoughts?

In case anyone needs a definition of orthodox.

1. (of a person or their views, especially religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved:

There is some confusion here concerning the meaning of 'Orthodox,' and it is best to use 'Fundamentalist Christians,' and belief in Sola Scriptora.'

Actually, I agree that the fundamentalists do not 'juggle the books' to make them fit the contradictions of the modern world and science. The simply believe in a straight forward manner the scriptures and the Church Fathers.

 

[idav]

There is some confusion here concerning the meaning of 'Orthodox,' and it is best to use 'Fundamentalist Christians.'

Actually, I agree that the fundamentalists do not 'juggle the books' to make them fit the contradictions of the modern world and science. The simply believe in a straight forward manner the scriptures and the Church Fathers.

For some tradition would hold precedent within their respective religions, as opposed to progressives who might want to change it.

You have a good way of putting it. Straight forward.

 

[idav]

I try to understand it how the Spirit of God intends for me to understand it.

Most Christias do.

 

[Revoltingest]

Are orthodox religions more honest about what their scriptures say?

I was talking with an atheist friend one day and they said that Christian Fundamentalists are more honest about what thier scriptures are saying in particular, young earth creationists. I can appreciate the honesty as well, it is quite refreshing, even if I were opposed to some of the theology or morality that might come out of it.

Thoughts?

In case anyone needs a definition of orthodox.

1. (of a person or their views, especially religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved:

Not more honest.
Just more doctrinaire.

 

[idav]

I don't think attachment to the literal text of any scripture has much of a positive correlation with honesty by any reasonable understanding of that word.

Not more honest.
Just more doctrinaire.

As opposed to a spiritual person who might have more of a loosey goosey interpretation?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I mean it to be any Orthodox like Catholics first Vatican for example. Orthodox Judaism?

The problem is, "Orthodox" simply means "right belief." And, in their own minds, everybody who holds a belief holds the "right" one. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a belief. (Of course, that should point to what it says about that believer's thoughts about everybody else's beliefs, if they're not quite like his own -- how could they be "right?")