Yes, semantics, "the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning."Semantics
But far be it from me to suggest that you should be concerned with such things.
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Yes, semantics, "the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning."Semantics
Yes, semantics, "the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning."
But far be it from me tosuggest that you should be concerned with such thingscontribute something useful that actually addresses the question posed in the thread.
People believe all manner of things.
Many of those who have studied the subject suggest, instead, what has been called the Q-source (although I tend to be a Goodacre fan).
Are you seriously making fun of the man's surname? You truly are scraping the bottle of the barrel.Yes the probable simpler early gospel is called Q.People believe all manner of things.
Many of those who have studied the subject suggest, instead, what has been called the Q-source (although I tend to be a Goodacre fan).
Urban dictionary:
Goodacre
Usually refers to the surname of someone who is incredibly fit, attractive and intelligent - although their only noticeable flaw is that they seem to think they are better than everyone else and God's gift. Mostly blondes, good at water sports.
Are you seriously making fun of the man's surname? You truly are scraping the bottle of the barrel.
Probably formatting fault on my part: I should have written "Goodacre fan" rather than "Goodacre fan."Not seriously I missed that it was a citation to an author.
What are your thoughts on a group of men deciding rather than to include all gospels in the holy writ, to simply discard these gospels.
I am not aware of any Christian Bibles that do not contain all four gospels or any denominations that have added any.
...In the early years following the death of Jesus, Q1 reveals people regarding Jesus as a prophet or wise man.
If you follow conclusions about Gospel of Q you can see how Jesus was regarded. First, as a wise or sage man, then as the son of God. The son of God definition of Jesus was necessary to promote a new religion. In some ways, early Christian movement leaders were marketing specialists. When their marketing brand took off "Christianity" was born.
...but were decided not to be included because they did not portray Jesus as divine, but as a man.
Actually, some letters are in the Bible. The word "Gospels", in my opinion, is actually a designation given by man. They are the four historical accounts of Jesus and because of "the gospel" that it presents, they are referred to as "the gospels".First you would have to clarify what the difference is between a 'gospel' and a 'letter' (aside from the obvious that one is in the Bible and one is not).
Actually, some letters are in the Bible. The word "Gospels", in my opinion, is actually a designation given by man. They are the four historical accounts of Jesus and because of "the gospel" that it presents, they are referred to as "the gospels".
Precisely.The word "Gospels", in my opinion, is actually a designation given by man. ...
You can present an argument regarding this.Unfortunately the authorship of the gospels remains unknown, with the evidence indicating that they were edited and added to over a period after the apostles died with a likely earlier simpler gospel primarily written by the early church fathers. Based on the progressive relationship between the synoptic gospels Matthew, Mark, and Luke I believe the earliest gospel was a simpler biography. The problem includes some of Paul's letters which are most likely not his. This a more important process than the actual final selection of the canon.
Assignment of the authorship is a likely consequence of the church fathers knowledge of the apostles, and to give each authority,
I believe the evolution of the gospels and the final determination of what is the canon was done by mostly non-Hebrew Greek and Roman Church Fathers. There is a strong Hellenist influence by Paul, Augustine and Irenaeus.
There is historical value in the books and letters excluded from the canon, and I can understand from a practical perspective why many were excluded.
I believe it is more important to understand the the evolution and editing of the canon by the early church fathers. This determined what the final selection.
This is a curious sentence.There are other historical accounts of Jesus that were allegedly left out of the Bible.
You can present an argument regarding this.
I have yet to read an argument that has any credible basis of /religious text understanding, however.
I do not know of any historical accounts of the life of Jesus dating to the time of his life including the gospels.There are other historical accounts of Jesus that were allegedly left out of the Bible. Why are you referring to them as letters and what disqualifies them from being called gospels?
His lack of knowledge is confirming what you don't know?This, in essence, confirms the allegations in my OP...
I believe that the gospels, when written in Greek, were compiled from Hebrew, and other language scribal writings. They therefore are a compilation, and simply restate the scribal notes, with verbal witness as attestation. Perfectly normal in a scribal society, and perfectly normal when writing a text in this subject.From: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~jcu/4-7lecture.pdf
THE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS MATTHEW – MARK – LUKE
"What does “Gospel” mean? What is a “Gospel”? What does the word “Synoptic” mean? NONE of the Gospels are eyewitness accounts. The authors were not among the followers of Jesus. The earliest (Mark) was composed about a generation after Jesus’s death, presumably because oral memories were beginning to fade &/or were contaminated by varying traditions. The earliest Gospels were (probably) “Sayings Gospels,” collections of Jesus’s words with no narrative framework. (The relatively late Gospel of Thomas is an example of such a collection.) There are no very early sayings collections that survive, but evidence for the existence of at least one such collection—known as Q, for the German Quelle, ‘Source’—is found in a substantial body of material, not found in Mark, that Matthew and Luke have in common. The canonical Gospels are traditional narratives constructed out of oral materials circulating among various Christian communities after Jesus’s death."