The belief in Jesus being physically resurrected is unique to Christians beliefs. Other faith adherents don't believe in it. I don't believe in it and I doubt if you believe in it either.
It's still a Christian belief and truth regardless how many people and who believe in it. If the Bible defines Christianity (the service of brothers and sisters of christ), and they believe in the resurrection as per the bible says, we can have opinions and beliefs all we want, but in my opinion-just as reinterpreting and viewing Hindu faith-I wouldn't say it is wrong or false that christ didn't rise physically.
To me, rising physically sounds like superman or something, the way you're describing it. I wouldn't call it just spiritual because, as I mentioned, rising as a body is through the practice of communion, salvation, and union with god
both in flesh and in spirit.
Most of us are fine about the diversity of other peoples beliefs. I'm fine that Christians believe in a physically resurrected man called Jesus they call God. I don't believe it but I accept people's right to believe whatever they want as
@Vinayaka believes in reincarnation. We simply understand and acknowledge the others persons belief.
I accept people's beliefs too. I never experienced Bahai belief so I can only offer my disagreements based on what you all say and quote. I don't know anything about Hinduism; and, Vinakaya doesn't talk about it much, so I can't form an opinion or have a conversation about it, so basically, unless you guys talk via experiences, I'm talking surface level conversations.
Deeper conversations is more personal. Instead of talking about if jesus resurrected just by saying "there is no evidence" while I can say the same about god, which there is none, but I don't see evidence as facts and statistics. I also see people's experiences biblical and yours etc as evidence so god is defined differently because the only evidence that is of god is through you guys experiences-Bahaullah, Christ, and Zoroaster included.
The problem is that many Christians elevate their beliefs to facts they insist are true and can be proven. Examples of such beliefs are that Jesus was physically resurrected, Jesus was God, and that the earth was created six or so thousand years ago. They insist these are true and prove that their religion is the only religion worth following, and if we fail to believe as the Christians do, then we will be thrown into hell. If we listen to the message of other faith adherents and believe in them, then we are following Satan. If we listen to fundamentalist Christian and accept their message then this is the only way we can enter the kingdom of eternity.
I actually don't listen to fundamentalist christians. I don't experience the resurrection through them, just talk-talk-talk. They don't share their experience just bible as what they view as facts.
But, I wouldn't base the biblical understanding of the resurrection on what you read but what you experience.
There is a fine line between religious tolerance and bigotry and I have little doubt where Christian fundamentalists sit in regards to that line. The problem is not just the psychological damage that results from this theology but it becomes easy to justify forced conversions, coercion, domination, guilt, violence and war in the name of the Christian God. We all know the story of Christianity and the violence that has been perpetuated in the name of God and the suppression of truth and science.
But what's the real deal with Christian fundamentalist. To me, I just don't like how they express their ideas but I can see why they believe what they do just as the opposing side because they are both in scripture. So, instead of seeing the bigotry in their beliefs or opinions, find truth (and peace *cough cough*) in them instead.
Many Christian apologists persist with an approach to religious faith and spirituality that has long outlived its usefulness. They justify their beliefs by referring to their scripture that they take literally yet have failed to understand the deeper spiritual message IMHO. A physically resurrected Jesus that has ascended in the physical sky is an example. However this belief is not only problematic from a scriptural perspective, it contradicts science and reason.
Have you studied the scripture to the same extent as the Christian apologists? To be brutally honest, I rather take a Orthodox Catholic view because, so far I know, they are the furthest back one can get to the apostles since christianity doesn't recognize
all the laws and teachings of Moses that Jews recognize and are not bound by them. However, Catholics (all) have closer ties to the original scripture than we do. I mean, I went to the Basilica-the biggest catholic church in the US-and in the college library, there was a room sectioned off just for studying Catholic priest. They had the full bible in the room but you couldn't read it because you needed a code to get inside.
Now, we read bibles all the time. What about this particular bible (unless made of gold?) that would make these words in it hidden from the average public. Same as the Vatican that holds a lot of American history that the public doesn't get to know about (saw on the history channel).
I agree that we can all be inspired by God and that history has been shaped by many outstanding people in different cultures. However I believe that the Manifestations of God reflect that inspiration to an incomparable degree. None of the manifestations of God taught a physical resurrection including Jesus.
This is your belief, of course. I've always said on these forums that when you (or say other Bahai that are not christian) talk of another religion as part of your own, it would help to use their facts not reinterpreted through your own. We know what you believe. I just find it off that you call it christianity when you know there is a difference between the two yet rather see the resurrection through manifestations even though the fact of christianity doesn't teach that. So, it leads me to believe that what you believe is not christian. (Not an insult, just what I observe)
Our experiences are personal and the existence of millions who believe in the resurrection does not constitute a proof anymore than the much larger numbers of people who do not agree with this belief. Just because we believe something to be true, does not make it true.
If you're looking at scripture as if it says jesus flew like superman, then yeah, of course, our beliefs won't count. Since scripture is about the people-brothers and sisters of christ in christianity-it is about people's experiences and what people believe (their faith) not what's physically and literally written in a book.
I honestly feel you're using the bible as an idol in place of god and christ himself.
