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Racial divide on matters of law enforcement and policing

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Very recently there was a shooting of an Australian woman that was soon to be married, that goes by the name Justine Ruszcyk (or Justine Damond her fiancée's last name) that had called police regarding a possible rape (or assault) in an alley behind her house. When police arrived two officers had showed up Justine approached the driver side of the vehicle and she was shot and eventually died. You can see more here:Justine Ruszczyk: Woman killed by police a month before wedding - CNN.com

Now, my co-workers and I were discussing the reactions on facebook today regarding this tragedy and sadly many of us in reaction to this used the common statements also used when unarmed black men are killed:

"Why was she reaching for her waist?"

"She had marijuana in her system"

"She was a thug"

"Let's wait until all the facts are out before we reach judgment"

"He shot her because he was in fear for his life."

Now of course we said that in mock of those who say the same for African-American men who are shot and killed while unarmed, Now this story is interesting because this is a white woman from Australia who was killed by a Somalian Muslim. So now, in the court of public opinion the microscope is now not only pointed at his ethnic heritage but his religion as well. Out of curiosity I looked at various comments on Facebook and out news outlets and it didn't disappoint as various people called out his "terrorist ties" which is stupid since he was a cop and went through a strict background. Some even mentioned that "blacks couldn't wait to kill whites." My co-workers and I furthered discussed the silence of bluelivesmatter.....Similarly when Philando Castille an African-American man with a license to carry a concealed weapon was killed, the NRA who is big on second amendment was silent.

Let's be honest here, in cases where the police are involved and there is a killing, the reactions of people especially those that aren't a part of the minority demographic, demonstrates the racial bias' and double standards that exist in the U.S.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
There really shouldn't be any doubt that racism is still quite strong in the U.S., and that cuts different ways as it's not just whites that are sometimes racist.

For a long time we were going in the direction of greater tolerance and appreciation of different races, nationalities, and religions, but over the last several years we've stepped back a notch as surveys are indicating.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
The cop may have been black, but I'm sure he got his training from mostly white officers.......
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
There really shouldn't be any doubt that racism is still quite strong in the U.S., and that cuts different ways as it's not just whites that are sometimes racist.

For a long time we were going in the direction of greater tolerance and appreciation of different races, nationalities, and religions, but over the last several years we've stepped back a notch as surveys are indicating.

Agreed. It is just so frustrating that there are implicit racial biases in police work in society.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
With so many guns in circulation, and so much press on violent, gun toting thugs, the police are scared of the public they purportedly 'protect and serve'. They're nervous and trigger happy. Mistakes are made.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
People are biased. That isn't going to change.

So we do nothing, there isn't any room for improvement and things wont change?

Said all the people who thought women wouldn't earn the right to vote, or segregation wouldn't end, or any number of other things...
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
So we do nothing, there isn't any room for improvement and things wont change?

Said all the people who thought women wouldn't earn the right to vote, or segregation wouldn't end, or any number of other things...

Did I say or imply that we do nothing? Nope.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
If they're scared they shouldn't be cops
Uh, if you are in a profession that has the possibility of ending your life and you are not scared you are in the wrong profession because it will eventually cost you your life. Being "scared" is your minds way of protecting you and you have to learn how to deal with it. Training is the major factor in overcoming fear, some people can learn how to control fear others can not. If you can not learn to control fear then you should not be in a position that generates fear.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
When you're dealing with a woman in her pajamas with nothing but a cell phone, fear shouldn't be entering into it!
 

esmith

Veteran Member
When you're dealing with a woman in her pajamas with nothing but a cell phone, fear shouldn't be entering into it!
Your wrong. In this case you don't know the person, you do not know the intent of the person, you do not know what the person has on them. So, situational awareness and some form of fear should always be present, you just have to "push" the fear down and rely on ones training and be constantly aware of your surroundings...situational awareness. If you can not "push" the fear down then you have no business being in that profession. Also as I stated previously if you have not fear then you are a danger to yourself and others.
 
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