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Is Peace on Earth Really God's Goal????

Bird123

Well-Known Member
It seems most people I know pray for World Peace. They tell me that is what God wants. I don't see it.



As I see it, life is the education of God's children. So often that takes adversity, challenges, and interaction to advance the lessons. The resolution of conflict always brings education of some sort.



Having peace and having it made seems to be a default desire of most people. On the other hand, as I see it, God's goal is the education of God's children. Peace will only arrive after all the lessons are learned.

What do you think??
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
It seems most people I know pray for World Peace. They tell me that is what God wants. I don't see it.



As I see it, life is the education of God's children. So often that takes adversity, challenges, and interaction to advance the lessons. The resolution of conflict always brings education of some sort.



Having peace and having it made seems to be a default desire of most people. On the other hand, as I see it, God's goal is the education of God's children. Peace will only arrive after all the lessons are learned.

What do you think??

I would agree mostly. I think its our given goal to achieve peace in life. I also believe it was given to us as a litmus test. We have choice, what choices are we going to make to achieve peace. I believe God is seeking equals not worshipers,and there may be more lives or different challenges after this one.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I would agree mostly. I think its our given goal to achieve peace in life. I also believe it was given to us as a litmus test. We have choice, what choices are we going to make to achieve peace. I believe God is seeking equals not worshipers,and there may be more lives or different challenges after this one.


I agree. Further, the choices we make will always be a learning experience even if those choices are the wrong ones. You are right. If everyone had real intelligence, we would make it easy on ourselves.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Peace does not mean there are no lessons to be learned only that the extreme pain and misery are no more. I for one welcome the ending of extreme suffering.


Perhaps the pain and the suffering are the driving forces that pushes one to Resolution. Pain is no more than a signal that something is wrong. Since no one wants pain, one works toward solving the problems.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Perhaps the pain and the suffering are the driving forces that pushes one to Resolution. Pain is no more than a signal that something is wrong. Since no one wants pain, one works toward solving the problems.
What I was thinking of was the millions dead and continents in rubble that was WWII and war in general. Peace does not stop individual pain.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
It seems most people I know pray for World Peace. They tell me that is what God wants. I don't see it.



As I see it, life is the education of God's children. So often that takes adversity, challenges, and interaction to advance the lessons. The resolution of conflict always brings education of some sort.



Having peace and having it made seems to be a default desire of most people. On the other hand, as I see it, God's goal is the education of God's children. Peace will only arrive after all the lessons are learned.

What do you think??

I dont see it. We humans are being egotistical to say god cares about us and no other person in the galaxy. As if god is only limited to people on earth.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I dont see it. We humans are being egotistical to say god cares about us and no other person in the galaxy. As if god is only limited to people on earth.

For me at least God's children goes not equal human, I would agree it would be egotistical to believe that.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
The most delusional people I know believe that God has, or even needs, a goal (or plan, for that matter).
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I dont see it. We humans are being egotistical to say god cares about us and no other person in the galaxy. As if god is only limited to people on earth.


I am sorry if I implied that this has only to do with mankind. As I see it God has many many children on the educational path. These many children are at different levels of education. Example: Here on Earth alone there are animals and insects. Such are God's children as well as mankind. Further, there are also children far advanced from mankind in the universe that must be included.
You are right. To limit the view to only mankind would prevent one from seeing the Big Picture. There is a lot going on.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I am sorry if I implied that this has only to do with mankind. As I see it God has many many children on the educational path. These many children are at different levels of education. Example: Here on Earth alone there are animals and insects. Such are God's children as well as mankind. Further, there are also children far advanced from mankind in the universe that must be included.
You are right. To limit the view to only mankind would prevent one from seeing the Big Picture. There is a lot going on.

Yes. God isn't limited to the earth. There is no "god created the heavens and the earth." That's a human thing. Never agreed with it.
 

CogentPhilosopher

Philosophy Student
It seems most people I know pray for World Peace. They tell me that is what God wants. I don't see it.



As I see it, life is the education of God's children. So often that takes adversity, challenges, and interaction to advance the lessons. The resolution of conflict always brings education of some sort.



Having peace and having it made seems to be a default desire of most people. On the other hand, as I see it, God's goal is the education of God's children. Peace will only arrive after all the lessons are learned.

What do you think??

I have one thing to say:

Revelations
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
The most delusional people I know believe that God has, or even needs, a goal (or plan, for that matter).


Do you file everything you do not understand as delusional?

OK, say I build a car. Before the car is even made, there is a plan or goal for my creation. The complex systems are brought together to bring results toward a goal. In this case. I will be able to travel much easier than walking.

If you take a caveman, he might never have a clue seeing the car unless it is driving down the road. Still, it will take much learning before the caveman truly understands. Perhaps, the caveman's first step to understanding will be to ask questions. How does it go? Why does it work? Why was it built this way? Since the car works so well, everything must add up.

As I see it, in this time-based causal universe, God's actions can be seen. Just like the caveman, our path to understanding is to figure out answers to the same questions. Why is it done this way? How does it work? What is the reason?

As it has always been, true Discovery takes work. Aren't the Real answers Staring us all in the face????
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It seems most people I know pray for World Peace. They tell me that is what God wants. I don't see it.



As I see it, life is the education of God's children. So often that takes adversity, challenges, and interaction to advance the lessons. The resolution of conflict always brings education of some sort.



Having peace and having it made seems to be a default desire of most people. On the other hand, as I see it, God's goal is the education of God's children. Peace will only arrive after all the lessons are learned.

What do you think??

Makes sense, but if you're speaking from an Abrahamic perspective, that would mean that both the fall of Lucifer and the fall of man were all an intended part of his plan.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Yes. God isn't limited to the earth. There is no "god created the heavens and the earth." That's a human thing. Never agreed with it.


As I see it, Intelligence spans far beyond mankind's vision. Example; The universe was created to expand, grow and unfold into what we have today and beyond. The beauty of it is that it was created in such a way that God's children would be able to figure out how, in time. Doesn't advanced Intelligence have to come up with more than poof, it's created. Further, step by step, isn't science slowly figuring the how??

One can look at a person and see a person. Of course, when one discovers DNA, one discovers there are more levels of Understanding. As I see it, Understanding God's handy work leads one to really Understand God.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Makes sense, but if you're speaking from an Abrahamic perspective, that would mean that both the fall of Lucifer and the fall of man were all an intended part of his plan.


Yes, mankind was meant to make up stories for entertainment. On the other hand, mankind also uses stories and beliefs to control the thinking of others. Get them to follow and accept instead of using rational thought, and you have lots of lessons that need to be learned by many.

As I see it, Lucifer does not exist and mankind has never fallen. Mankind is crawling ever so slowly forward toward intelligence.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
As I see it, Intelligence spans far beyond mankind's vision. Example; The universe was created to expand, grow and unfold into what we have today and beyond. The beauty of it is that it was created in such a way that God's children would be able to figure out how, in time. Doesn't advanced Intelligence have to come up with more than poof, it's created. Further, step by step, isn't science slowly figuring the how??

One can look at a person and see a person. Of course, when one discovers DNA, one discovers there are more levels of Understanding. As I see it, Understanding God's handy work leads one to really Understand God.

Eh. I never saw it that way. When I see a tree, that's what I see. It's sacred in and of itself and doesn't remind me or reflect anyone or anything that other people say created it. I don't respect my parents because they created me. I respect them because one of them chose to take care of me. That choice and freedom to do so is what I value not the role of the person or the authority of him or her. I can careless about god. I never had an intimate connection with him nor had a feeling there is something greater.

But if what I see is a reflection of him, I would rather respect the creation than the creator because at least I know and experience the sacredness of creation not try and have faith that it is a reflection of someone I haven't met.

That's me, though. I don't know how to have too many god conversations. I don't know what a god is, really.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I believe God wants us to have peace, however we should desire peace ourselves regardless.

Do you want there to be peace?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
It seems most people I know pray for World Peace. They tell me that is what God wants. I don't see it.
As I see it, life is the education of God's children. So often that takes adversity, challenges, and interaction to advance the lessons. The resolution of conflict always brings education of some sort.
Having peace and having it made seems to be a default desire of most people. On the other hand, as I see it, God's goal is the education of God's children. Peace will only arrive after all the lessons are learned.
What do you think??

First of all, I think we are living in the last days of badness on Earth as described at 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13 describing
the self-centered, selfish, distorted form of love the world displays which is in sharp contrast to the definition of godly love as defined at 1 Corinthians 13:4-6.
Godly love is what is being taught about in connection to Matthew 24:14 global proclaiming about the good news about God's kingdom government. The ' thy kingdom come ' that Jesus asked us to pray for to come.

God's arrangement to change the world for the better is to get rid of the wickedness on Earth - Psalms 92:7.
Just as a person who owns a beautiful house which becomes infested with rodents would Not get rid of his beautiful house but call in an exterminator. Rather than calling in an exterminator against the wicked, the words from Jesus' mouth will execute the wicked according to Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.
So, Jesus, as Prince of Peace, is the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill.
So, yes God's goal is as Jesus' promised us that the humble meek will inherit the Earth.
 
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