U.S. shoots 50-60 Tomahawk Missiles at Assad's Airforce

[LuisDantas]

Using military force to solve these issues has amounted to throwing water on a grease fire.

More like throwing gasoline.

 

[LuisDantas]

So now I wonder if we do remove Assad and install our own puppet ruler if it will go the way of Iran.

While I wonder if puppet rulers are even a real thing.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Are we supposed to believe that Trump actually has a heart now and ordered these strikes out of humanitarian sympathies? These same "beautiful, innocent babies" are the same ones he won't allow to come to America to escape from war! What a pathetic fake! He doesn't have a heart. Sadly, many people are simply fools and will be duped by this charade.

 

[Revoltingest]

I voted <no>.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Lol
Warning Russians and Syrians then bombing empty airbase.

Not convinced at all.

In truth they are allies who fights against islam.

 

[sovietchild]

Lol
Warning Russians and Syrians then bombing empty airbase.

Not convinced at all.

In truth they are allies who fights against islam.

How are they fighting against Islam? I thought it was all about the oil route.

 

[esmith]

I voted yes for the following reason.
It sends a signal that President Trump will use military force. This signal is basically aimed at North Korea who is a vastly more of a threat than Assad. This also says that, and I hate to

but it also says to Assad that unlike the previous president that if he does use chemical weapons the US will act. It also warns other nations in the area that there is, and to use a trite phrase, a new sherriff in town.

Now Russia wants to be the big player in this area along with Iran and both nations want Assad to remain in power. I think that by this action it basically says to Russia that they should use their influence with Assad to take a closer look at the situation. Russia is not dumb, they should realize that the majority of the world looks upon what is going on in Syria has to stop and this last act could align the nations to take various actions, probably not military in nature, to put pressure on Russia and Iran to put pressure on Assad. Now I do not think that the US wants Assad removed because there is basically no known replacement for him. The elements that we supported against Assad many many years ago are basically gone and what is left are unknowns. The only viable group that we should be aligned with in Syria are the Kurds. Now I am probably completely off base in this assumption. What I would like to know was what King Abdullah of Jordan and President Trump really discussed in their meetings.

 

[Quintessence]

I can't vote in the poll because there is no option for "I don't know."

It does, however, worry me. Previous and current behavior suggests that dump's version of "America first" is increased militarization, isolationist protectionism, and bullying (sometimes of the deadly sort, apparently). That sort of "America first" philosophy speaks to me of things I'd prefer not to see history repeat.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

Right off the bat I can tell this is a false flag. The chemicals being used I mean.

Can anyone explain to me why it would be to Assad's advantage to doing so? It seems more like war propaganda, like with Iraq to find the weapons of mass destruction that never existed.

 

[columbus]

The

Right off the bat I can tell this is a false flag. The chemicals being used I mean.

Can anyone explain to me why it would be to Assad's advantage to doing so? It seems more like war propaganda, like with Iraq to find the weapons of mass destruction that never existed.

The sad fact is that in the murky Syrian conflict there are plenty of players willing and able to pull false flag operations.
And everyone there has reason to play Trump, if only to see how he responds. Likely someone did. He is pretty easy to play. His Twitter battles during the election demonstrated that.
Tom

 

[Indian Iconoclast]

I praise President Donald Trump with all my heart and wish the European nations to learn a thing or two from America's new head of state in treating the growing menace of dictators who follow the Islamic faith.

I thank God for giving the USA a clear thinking and open-mouthed statesman and a captain who is able to see the distant signs and stars to chart his nation's ship to safe waters!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's true, and I understand that. I just don't see it particularly more comforting to the civilians whether they die by chemical agent or being starved to death or other gruesome, painful and violent deaths.

Like bombs being rained on them? Such as how recently in Mosul a US air raid hit a building, inadvertently collapsed it, and up goes the civilian death toll.

More like throwing gasoline.

I'd go with the water in a grease fire, as the water boils and evaporates and spews the ignited grease everywhere.

It sends a signal that President Trump will use military force. This signal is basically aimed at North Korea who is a vastly more of a threat than Assad. This also says that, and I hate to

but it also says to Assad that unlike the previous president that if he does use chemical weapons the US will act. It also warns other nations in the area that there is, and to use a trite phrase, a new sherriff in town.

We played "new sheriff in town" in Iraq, and we went from having what is comparable to saying they went from a regime that is like that local Gangster's Disciples here where I live, and going in to get rid of them, and achieving nothing more than clearing the way for the Crips from LA move in and take over.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I praise President Donald Trump with all my heart and wish the European nations to learn a thing or two from America's new head of state in treating the growing menace of dictators who follow the Islamic faith.

I thank God for giving the USA a clear thinking and open-mouthed statesman and a captain who is able to see the distant signs and stars to chart his nation's ship to safe waters!

Do you realize that for about 200 years now, Western interference in the Middle East has never accomplished anything more than benefiting Western states and corporations, while continually escalating the violence and extremism in the Middle East? Haven't you noticed things keep only getting worse when a military campaign is launched against them?
It has been acknowledged by many, including those in the military, that Saddam acted as a "cork" that kept the pressures of Iraq from blowing. America got rid of the cork, and ISIS stormed through huge chucks of Syria and Iraq.
The tactics being used are tried and true and repeated failures.

 

[esmith]

Do you realize that for about 200 years now, Western interference in the Middle East has never accomplished anything more than benefiting Western states and corporations, while continually escalating the violence and extremism in the Middle East? Haven't you noticed things keep only getting worse when a military campaign is launched against them?
It has been acknowledged by many, including those in the military, that Saddam acted as a "cork" that kept the pressures of Iraq from blowing. America got rid of the cork, and ISIS stormed through huge chucks of Syria and Iraq.
The tactics being used are tried and true and repeated failures.

What action allowed ISIS to storm through huge chunks of Syria and Iraq?

 

[columbus]

What action allowed ISIS to storm through huge chunks of Syria and Iraq?

Toppling Saddam Hussein is the main reason. Partisan politics in the USA is another biggie.
Tom

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What action allowed ISIS to storm through huge chunks of Syria and Iraq?

The act of overthrowing a sovereign nation, eliminating its leader who although brutal kept things relatively stable and far more safe than it was post-Iraq II, establishing a new state in America's own image and liking, and assuming they would like it and be happy and peaceful. Really, it's along the same reasons that lead to post-WWI conflicts after England and France drew up the borders for many Middle Eastern nations.
Don't forget, such military interventions were a Cold War catalyst for Communist Revolutionists picking up arms against America, such as Che, who became a household name because he was appalled over the devastation and oppression that came along with US military intervention in smaller "under developed" nations.

 

[metis]

Even though I put my peacenik credentials in jeopardy, I voted "yes". To have not reacted would have sent out the wrong "message".

However, there are two mitigating factors that we must realize. One is that this really doesn't change much of anything other than just being a warning, and two is that there's the "law of unforeseen circumstances" that could kick in.

BTW, where are those people now who said that Hillary was more of a "war-monger" than Trump? They must be hiding somewhere near by. Anyone seen them?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

BTW, where are those people now who said that Hillary was more of a "war-monger" than Trump? They must be hiding somewhere near by. Anyone seen them?

Yes.....where are they so I can gloat that I told them Trump gave us no reason to believe he'd be any different. Both gave us reason to believe they would continue "full speed ahead" with the same failed strategies and plans that have only wasted money and myriads of lives.

 

[leibowde84]

It was a joke, but you missed it...

Firing ground missiles at planes... yadda..

I still don't get it. They took out 26 (or so) planes with those "ground" missiles. They were "grounded" planes though.

 

[leibowde84]

Hopefully there was an agreement with the Russians on this. Taking action is never without negative consequences and may escalate matters.., but the same can be said for turning a blind eye to evil dictators, your avatar would remind us all of that!

Very true. I agree completely. Apparently Trump warned the Russians before it happened. And, Winston would certainly agree with you.