There are no errors in the Qur'an

[loverofhumanity]

Your understanding is irrelevant as the fact that each religion mutually exclusive according to it's own views not some view you impose upon it.



Irrelevant point dependent on your opinion, nothing more



Irrelevant point dependent on your opinion, nothing more



So what? All you have done is filter all religions from your own religion's point of view. This does not create a fact.

I wouldn't be so hasty to judge.

Fact is each of these religions did come successively historically not simultaneously which supports the view of progressively revealed religion according to each age.

Next, another fact is that in each of these religions, the previous religion and Prophet/ Educator is accepted and confirmed as true.

Next, in each of these religions are prophecies about the next Educator to appear once again supporting that each age has its own teachings and Messenger.

Just rebuttal and denial does not disprove these facts. Check history and you will find all that I am stating is true about the historical progressive appearance of each religion, that they confirm the previous religion is true and prophesy the next Messenger to come. Even Muslims too await the Mahdi and return of Christ.

These are facts of history without any need of referring to my own religion. This image is just an example. The dates are approximate but progressive. You can consult any Encyclopedia to confirm these facts.

 

[Shad]

I wouldn't be so hasty to judge.

Why when you openly admit to interpreting each religion according to your religious view rather than what each religion itself teaches?

Fact is each of these religions did come successively historically not simultaneously which supports the view of progressively revealed religion according to each age.

It does not more than support religions change, are assimilated, adapted, etc. None of this establishes your religion true.

Another view is that these religions merely borrowed or become part of a previous tradition and developed into a unique religion which in no one involved God. It is called religions assimilation and adaption. This has a far longer and more established view point within history than your claim does.

Next, another fact is that in each of these religions, the previous religion and Prophet/ Educator is accepted and confirmed as true.

Hardly as Christianity and Islam have a different view of Jesus. Judaism does not even accept Jesus. Confirmation is only done at the follower level which is different depending on the follower. I doubt any Muslim would accept that your religion is the successor to Islam.

Next, in each of these religions are prophecies about the next Educator to appear once again supporting that each age has its own teachings and Messenger.

Islam establishes no such thing due to the Seal of the Prophet. Christianity certainly doesn't at it warns of false prophets.

Just rebuttal and denial does not disprove these facts.

It puts to question if your claimed fact is one rather than an assertion.

Check history and you will find all that I am stating is true about the historical progressive appearance of each religion, that they confirm the previous religion is true and prophesy the next Messenger to come. Even Muslims too await the Mahdi and return of Christ.

Actually these religions do not as key ideas are rejected. Islam does not accept Jesus as part of a trinity for example.

These are facts of history without any need of referring to my own religion. This image is just an example. The dates are approximate but progressive. You can consult any Encyclopedia to confirm these facts.

Hardly since you either ignore or are oblivious to major difference of each which are mutually exclusive

 

[loverofhumanity]

Why when you openly admit to interpreting each religion according to your religious view rather than what each religion itself teaches?



It does not more than support religions change, are assimilated, adapted, etc. None of this establishes your religion true.

Another view is that these religions merely borrowed or become part of a previous tradition and developed into a unique religion which in no one involved God. It is called religions assimilation and adaption. This has a far longer and more established view point within history than your claim does.



Hardly as Christianity and Islam have a different view of Jesus. Judaism does not even accept Jesus. Confirmation is only done at the follower level which is different depending on the follower. I doubt any Muslim would accept that your religion is the successor to Islam.



Islam establishes no such thing due to the Seal of the Prophet. Christianity certainly doesn't at it warns of false prophets.



It puts to question if your claimed fact is one rather than an assertion.



Actually these religions do not as key ideas are rejected. Islam does not accept Jesus as part of a trinity for example.



Hardly since you either ignore or are oblivious to major difference of each which are mutually exclusive

Just a couple of things.

The Quran says Jesus was a Prophet and Muslims believe in Jesus and the Bible. There are verses in the Quran clearly stating this. I can find them if you don't believe me.

The trinity is not mentioned in the Bible. It is a man made interpretation not accepted by all of the 40,000 denominations of Christianity.

If you don't believe me ask Muslims. They await the return of Jesus and the Mahdi.

My religion is only true for me just as whatever you believe and understand is true for you.

You make some good points.

 

[Shad]

Just a couple of things.

The Quran says Jesus was a Prophet and Muslims believe in Jesus and the Bible. There are verses in the Quran clearly stating this. I can find them if you don't believe me.

This was never a point I made. The point I made is that Christianity's view of Jesus is mutually exclusive to the view of Jesus in Islam.

The trinity is not mentioned in the Bible. It is a man made interpretation not accepted by all of the 40,000 denominations of Christianity.

The word trinity isn't but Jesus saying him and god are one is within it. Read the bible.

If you don't believe me ask Muslims. They await the return of Jesus and the Mahdi.

This was never a point of contention

My religion is only true for me just as whatever you believe and understand is true for you.

Then you must extend this line of thought to other religions which undermines a previous point of interpreting each religion according to your own rather than what each religion has "claimed" for itself.

 

[loverofhumanity]

This was never a point I made. The point I made is that Christianity's view of Jesus is mutually exclusive to the view of Jesus in Islam.



The word trinity isn't but Jesus saying him and god are one is within it. Read the bible.



This was never a point of contention



Then you must extend this line of thought to other religions which undermines a previous point of interpreting each religion according to your own rather than what each religion has "claimed" for itself.

With regards to the trinity you mentioned some passages in the Bible. The verse you refer to we understand that is referring to unity as in the passage below. We are one with the Father and Christ too.

John 17:21

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Other religions have their own interpretation of their Holy Books but they do not exclusively 'own' their religion, it is for everyone to believe in. They can have their interpretation and we ours. No one owns exclusive rights to the interpretation of any religion or Holy Book. All humanity are free to interpret how they wish.

They have their religion and interpretation of it just as we too have our belief in all the Messengers.

 

[Shad]

With regards to the trinity you mentioned some passages in the Bible. The verse you refer to we understand that is referring to unity as in the passage below. We are one with the Father and Christ too.

No I am talking about verses like John 10:30

Other religions have their own interpretation of their Holy Books but they do not exclusively 'own' their religion, it is for everyone to believe in. They can have their interpretation and we ours. No one owns exclusive rights to the interpretation of any religion or Holy Book. All humanity are free to interpret how they wish.

They have their religion and interpretation of it just as we too have our belief in all the Messengers

Sure I accept that other religions view a different religion's scripture differently. However as I said this is a subjective opinion and ignoring what each religion is claiming for itself.

 

[loverofhumanity]

No I am talking about verses like John 10:30



Sure I accept that other religions view a different religion's scripture differently. However as I said this is a subjective opinion and ignoring what each religion is claiming for itself.

There is only one God. That is what will bring us together. It's the man made doctrines which divide us because they do not come from God.

 

[Baroodi]

To dear Shad and Notanumber
I'm a doctor, the description of the Quran for the embryo development is 100% correct to what really happen. What Keith Leon Moore said about it and how exact was it you can't deny because it is in utube videos and furthermore it is written in Wikipedia notes about Dr. Moore so you can not hide the facts. I just ask you to go and read generally about embryology and then read the translation of the Quranic verses and forget about the utube and Wikipedia
Other point don't judge a doctrine with few of its extremist followers but according to its founder ideas and principles. I'm afraid your next video my be with some guys from ISIS TO TELL US THIS IS ISLAM.
You can not be a Muslim if people are not safe from your tongue and hand
This is one and I will give you more of these scientific facts in Quran

 

[loverofhumanity]

To dear Shad and Notanumber
I'm a doctor, the description of the Quran for the embryo development is 100% correct to what really happen. What Keith Leon Moore said about it and how exact was it you can't deny because it is in utube videos and furthermore it is written in Wikipedia notes about Dr. Moore so you can not hide the facts. I just ask you to go and read generally about embryology and then read the translation of the Quranic verses and forget about the utube and Wikipedia
Other point don't judge a doctrine with few of its extremist followers but according to its founder ideas and principles. I'm afraid your next video my be with some guys from ISIS TO TELL US THIS IS ISLAM.
You can not be a Muslim if people are not safe from your tongue and hand
This is one and I will give you more of these scientific facts in Quran

Some of the nicest people I have ever been friends with are Muslims.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

I'm a doctor, the description of the Quran for the embryo development is 100% correct to what really happen.

Remind me not to ever get sick if I'm in your area.

 

[Notanumber]

To dear Shad and Notanumber
I'm a doctor, the description of the Quran for the embryo development is 100% correct to what really happen. What Keith Leon Moore said about it and how exact was it you can't deny because it is in utube videos and furthermore it is written in Wikipedia notes about Dr. Moore so you can not hide the facts. I just ask you to go and read generally about embryology and then read the translation of the Quranic verses and forget about the utube and Wikipedia
Other point don't judge a doctrine with few of its extremist followers but according to its founder ideas and principles. I'm afraid your next video my be with some guys from ISIS TO TELL US THIS IS ISLAM.
You can not be a Muslim if people are not safe from your tongue and hand
This is one and I will give you more of these scientific facts in Quran

Are you expecting me to trust you because you are a doctor?

If I was a gay patient of yours, I would be concerned even if you are one of those Muslims that are classed as being moderate.

When Sharia law takes over moderate Muslims will be forced to become true Muslims or face the consequences.

My medical records would no longer be in safe hands and could lead to me being taken to the roof of a high building.

 

[Shad]

There is only one God. That is what will bring us together. It's the man made doctrines which divide us because they do not come from God.

You own doctrine could be man-made as well. Interesting you can state this regarding other religions yet your religion is the exception.

 

[Shad]

To dear Shad and Notanumber
I'm a doctor, the description of the Quran for the embryo development is 100% correct to what really happen.

No it isn't as embryos are not leeches or blood clots. I also doubt you are a doctor.

What Keith Leon Moore said about it and how exact was it you can't deny because it is in utube videos and furthermore it is written in Wikipedia notes about Dr. Moore so you can not hide the facts. I just ask you to go and read generally about embryology and then read the translation of the Quranic verses and forget about the utube and Wikipedia

Keith Moore never wrote any of his claims in his books except for one in which a Muslim wrote the Quran bit into it. It says a lot when the very man making this claim does not include it in his own book on embryology. You can also look for refutations of Keith Moore from the same sources. The fact that he never converted says a lot. He didn't even believe what he claims. Also since he seems to be the only non-muslim within this field stating as such this makes it an argument from authority. More so in the 10th edition Moore in his own writing states that the Quran copied Greek knowledge thus this is a contradiction with what he claimed before. He even goes as far to say bones and muscle are formed simultaneously, page 56 and 63 which is another contradiction. He has omitted the 3rd edtion of his book, the one with the Islamic additions from his CV which is damning evidence. Interesting that in academia he says one thing but says something else to Muslims.

http://embryologyinthequran.blogspot.ca/
http://www.askabiologist.org.uk/answers/viewtopic.php?id=15055

(7:50ish mark and on.

You can find his book on your own as I can't share the link nor will I provide illegal sources for it.

Other point don't judge a doctrine with few of its extremist followers but according to its founder ideas and principles. I'm afraid your next video my be with some guys from ISIS TO TELL US THIS IS ISLAM.

I never did this. I judged your claims, nothing more.

You can not be a Muslim if people are not safe from your tongue and hand
This is one and I will give you more of these scientific facts in Quran

One which is laughable easy to undermine. Try again.

 

[loverofhumanity]

You own doctrine could be man-made as well. Interesting you can state this regarding other religions yet your religion is the exception.

By man made doctrines I mean doctrines not mentioned in the Holy Books.

 

[katiemygirl]

The Qur'an is the divine instruction manual for mankind

There are no errors as it is divine.

Pick out one error and i am ready to convert today.

All four gospels contradict the Quran. Yet your Quran confirms the gospels (5:48). According to your Quran, Allah gave the gospel to Jesus (57:27). Is the Quran wrong about this?

 

[interminable]

All four gospels contradict the Quran. Yet your Quran confirms the gospels (5:48). According to your Quran, Allah gave the gospel to Jesus (57:27). Is the Quran wrong about this?

There is no need to argue about gospels since they are written by human being and several versions of them can be found. Besides God said that about genuine book.

Actually the answer is in your statement
U said gospels not gospel and Quran is talking about gospel not gospels

 

[YmirGF]

Just a couple of things.

The Quran says Jesus was a Prophet and Muslims believe in Jesus and the Bible. There are verses in the Quran clearly stating this. I can find them if you don't believe me.

The trinity is not mentioned in the Bible. It is a man made interpretation not accepted by all of the 40,000 denominations of Christianity.

If you don't believe me ask Muslims. They await the return of Jesus and the Mahdi.

My religion is only true for me just as whatever you believe and understand is true for you.

You make some good points.

In reality though, the Muslim Jesus may as well be a completely different historical figure when compared to the Christian Jesus. The vast majority of Christians see Jesus as the son o' God, at the very least and a great many see him as God incarnate. Plus, I found the suggestion that Jesus spoke to the crowd, as an infant clutched in his mother's arms, speaking in a grown male's voice to be especially amusing. Such a profound event should have made it into Christian mythology, as it is not everyday that a baby talks like a man, let alone makes wild claims, but no... nary a word of this in the Christian mythology.

 

[YmirGF]

There is no need to argue about gospels since they are written by human being and several versions of them can be found. Besides God said that about genuine book.

Actually the answer is in your statement
U said gospels not gospel and Quran is talking about gospel not gospels

Even many Muslims would admit that this is a pretty thin argument...

 

[Rival]

U said gospels not gospel and Quran is talking about gospel not gospels

There is only one Gospel (good news), related in four texts. Historically, Christians said 'the Gospel' where they now say 'four Gospels' indicating the physical texts.

 

[loverofhumanity]

In reality though, the Muslim Jesus may as well be a completely different historical figure when compared to the Christian Jesus. The vast majority of Christians see Jesus as the son o' God, at the very least and a great many see him as God incarnate. Plus, I found the suggestion that Jesus spoke to the crowd, as an infant clutched in his mother's arms, speaking in a grown male's voice to be especially amusing. Such a profound event should have made it into Christian mythology, as it is not everyday that a baby talks like a man, let alone makes wild claims, but no... nary a word of this in the Christian mythology.

I don't find it anymore amusing than a dead body walking. Really, many of these verses are symbolical which people have taken to extremes and interpreted literally when the Holy Books are mostly spiritual books.

It's very easy to find a perfect rational and logical explanation for verses like this is we allow ourselves some latitude to look at these kinds of events as spiritual visions or dreams which have an inner meaning.