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Book of Mormon

robrog8999

Member
Hello Rob. Welcome to RF. Hope you stick around. There are lots of ways to share your views and stay within the rules. It's really not that hard. Friendly advice: don't be offended in a debate forum when people question your belief. That's kinda what its all about. And if we're not careful , we may learn something new.
Oh no, I don't get offended. If I let people offend me, id be offended all the time.. As being Mormon, you get that often and learn to develop a thick skin and laugh it away. At the end of the day, we all have the same views when it comes to what's important. Christians anyway. But the smaller differences are issues that most other Christians seem to get offended about more then that of Mormons.
Its disheartening as well because when you know something to be true, its sad to see others unwilling to listen to the Holy Spirit and ask God for themselves . its so simple. So as one who holds these views and beliefs and knows them to be true by personal experience ... You want to reach out and bring others in to what you know is so important .
But I also know that the scriptures described this and knew this would happen. And seeing it unfolding is sad.
But people have the freedom of choice and at the end of the day-- its their responsibility to make that choice. And i understand that and I'm happy for that. As we all have the gift of agency.
But as far as getting offended. Its unforantly that people allow themselves to get worked up over something they themselves don't beleive and its because they don't know.
Just open your eyes, pray to God with real and true feelings.. Most of all, with FAITH THAT YOU WILL BE ANSWERED-- And then tell me how you feel. That goes to the general public.. Not to you specifically ....
Anywya.. I do love to debate as debating helps bring unbelievers into the fold. I see it as an opportunity to help others find truth for themselves. However, this forum here isn't for debate. This specific forum had to do with religious resources --books and scripture. So of course, I titled my post book of Mormon.. As its religious book.. And boom.. You get people screaming and throwing a fit because I mentioned the book and its teachings when THIS SOECIFIC FORUM IS JUST FOR THAT. its silly. But im over it. This really isn't my type of service anyway. I gave it a fair shot and its just not for me. I'm done scrolling through it and investing time in it- other then replying to people who write to this post. I found a service that is much more my style. Laid back and actually appreciate receiving guidance and help . they don't get offended over it. Its nice. What I would expect. Ya know?
 

robrog8999

Member
Nothing better to reinforce a persons belief than isolation.
Isolation is not the proper way to spread God's word. In fact, those who deny it and are scarred of the unknown need it the most.
But when people get offended by it and aren't ready to open their minds... Then that's when you stop investing time until they're ready.
I prefer to spread the word and teach my belief to those who appreciate it. I don't want to offend people.
So yeah, def don't isolate. Not a good thing to do. Its bad for your mental health as well. Psychologically speaking.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Is this similar to how some Muslim, New Atheist, Gaudiya Vaishnava, Oneness Pentecostal and Scientologist posters might be disheartened because they know something to be true, but find others unwilling to listen?
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Oh no, I don't get offended. If I let people offend me, id be offended all the time.. As being Mormon, you get that often and learn to develop a thick skin and laugh it away. At the end of the day, we all have the same views when it comes to what's important. Christians anyway. But the smaller differences are issues that most other Christians seem to get offended about more then that of Mormons.
Its disheartening as well because when you know something to be true, its sad to see others unwilling to listen to the Holy Spirit and ask God for themselves . its so simple. So as one who holds these views and beliefs and knows them to be true by personal experience ... You want to reach out and bring others in to what you know is so important .
But I also know that the scriptures described this and knew this would happen. And seeing it unfolding is sad.
But people have the freedom of choice and at the end of the day-- its their responsibility to make that choice. And i understand that and I'm happy for that. As we all have the gift of agency.
But as far as getting offended. Its unforantly that people allow themselves to get worked up over something they themselves don't beleive and its because they don't know.
Just open your eyes, pray to God with real and true feelings.. Most of all, with FAITH THAT YOU WILL BE ANSWERED-- And then tell me how you feel. That goes to the general public.. Not to you specifically ....
Anywya.. I do love to debate as debating helps bring unbelievers into the fold. I see it as an opportunity to help others find truth for themselves. However, this forum here isn't for debate. This specific forum had to do with religious resources --books and scripture. So of course, I titled my post book of Mormon.. As its religious book.. And boom.. You get people screaming and throwing a fit because I mentioned the book and its teachings when THIS SOECIFIC FORUM IS JUST FOR THAT. its silly. But im over it. This really isn't my type of service anyway. I gave it a fair shot and its just not for me. I'm done scrolling through it and investing time in it- other then replying to people who write to this post. I found a service that is much more my style. Laid back and actually appreciate receiving guidance and help . they don't get offended over it. Its nice. What I would expect. Ya know?

I'm happy you decided to stay. And please don't get offended. But may I ask How you know that what you believe is absolute truth. Belief IMO requires faith without physical proof. Am I wrong?
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Isolation is not the proper way to spread God's word. In fact, those who deny it and are scarred of the unknown need it the most.
But when people get offended by it and aren't ready to open their minds... Then that's when you stop investing time until they're ready.
I prefer to spread the word and teach my belief to those who appreciate it. I don't want to offend people.
So yeah, def don't isolate. Not a good thing to do. Its bad for your mental health as well. Psychologically speaking.

I was referring to your comment about limiting communication to those within your own circle. Totally respect your choice to do so, but it does sort of limit dialogue.
 

robrog8999

Member
I'm happy you decided to stay. And please don't get offended. But may I ask How you know that what you believe is absolute truth. Belief IMO requires faith without physical proof. Am I wrong?
Yes that is faith. Knowing something to be true that is unseen. However.. My experience goes much deeper and I was blessed with an amzakng gift 2 and a half years ago. I know it to be true.
 

robrog8999

Member
I was referring to your comment about limiting communication to those within your own circle. Totally respect your choice to do so, but it does sort of limit dialogue.
You only speak it to those who want it..if u have those who are still unwilling or aggressive and offended, its not their time so you back away and teach to those who need it and want it.
 

robrog8999

Member
Is this similar to how some Muslim, New Atheist, Gaudiya Vaishnava, Oneness Pentecostal and Scientologist posters might be disheartened because they know something to be true, but find others unwilling to listen?
Yes.. I am sure. Anyone who truly beleive something to be true whole heartdly would be sadden to find out its not..
When you have faith and are mislead into something you later find out is wrong-- id assume that would be very devastating.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Anyone who truly beleive something to be true whole heartdly would be sadden to find out its not..
When you have faith and are mislead into something you later find out is wrong-- id assume that would be very devastating.

True. But in speaking to people of different faiths, How do you "know" that yours is true over, or more than say the Baptist or the Catholic or the Buddhist, or Muslim or Hindu or other sincerely held belief of another?
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes!! Defiantly ! E-mail me and I would move to sure.. This board is not ready for it. Way to many people who get offended and upset. [email protected]
E-mail me and I would love to share my testimony with you.

"Defiantly", or Definitely? :D I prefer to keep RF related things on RF. So start a conversation with me on my profile if you like. Love to have a discussion on this subject.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Yes.. I am sure. Anyone who truly beleive something to be true whole heartdly would be sadden to find out its not..
When you have faith and are mislead into something you later find out is wrong-- id assume that would be very devastating.

Well, I am in a similar situation as yourself regarding my faith and experience. Although I think ultimately belief is a mental construct, direct experience and knowledge of God is the real deal. Beliefs are secondary.
 

robrog8999

Member
True. But in speaking to people of different faiths, How do you "know" that yours is true over, or more than say the Baptist or the Catholic or the Buddhist, or Muslim or Hindu or other sincerely held belief of another?
Honestly... Its all faith. You just kinda know in your heart. But I get what your saying. They would say the same. But here's the thing...
I don't beleive religion saves. It doesn't matter what church you go to or if you don't have all the the doctrines. It comes down to Christ..if you beleive him to be your savior and accept him as your redeemer and lord.. And live a decent life.. Are a decent person.. Then you will be saved. But why preach these doctrines ? Because why not spread every truth if you feel you know it to be true.
That basically covers all or most of Christianity. As far as Muslims and others who don't accept Jesus as savior but beleive they have truth, that's when you have to call unto God and ask for yourself. It comes down to YOU. and rather you wanna accept Jesus or not. The holy spirit will and does reveal. Denying him is what Satan wants and tries for. And I beleive Muslims and others are ejther mislead, as they never experienced the Gospel or heard of it. Or you have the others who have heard it but deny it.. That's Satan. I beleive they are denying the spirit.
But at the end of the day.. You gotta ask. And I do know that if you do with sinsercity, and listen, you will know.
 

robrog8999

Member
"Defiantly", or Definitely? :D I prefer to keep RF related things on RF. So start a conversation with me on my profile if you like. Love to have a discussion on this subject.
Oh one of those... Haha sorry for my language but my keyboard changes some stuff. Using my phone. I will inspect my English further before I post. Sorry if I offended you.
 

robrog8999

Member
Well, I am in a similar situation as yourself regarding my faith and experience. Although I think ultimately belief is a mental construct, direct experience and knowledge of God is the real deal. Beliefs are secondary.
Have you prayed with sincerity and poured out your feelings and emotions to God? And asked Him about this? And asked for truth?
 

robrog8999

Member
Well, I am in a similar situation as yourself regarding my faith and experience. Although I think ultimately belief is a mental construct, direct experience and knowledge of God is the real deal. Beliefs are secondary.
But yes.. I get what your saying. Morals and treating people with love and kindness will be the most important thing on judgement day. Rather then which branch you are or rather you know of this doctrine or that. The basic idea is to spread the message of Christ and the Atonement.
 
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