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How much we were weigh (sperm and egg) ?

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
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psychoslice

Veteran Member
This is what Quran said about human creation.

Two questions MUST be asked:

  1. Is the Qur’an the first source to reveal such information on embryology?
  2. Are those information scientifically accurate?
Short answer: Yes, the same information on embryology found in the Quran was already known, and it was known centuries before the Quran, it is mentioned numerous times by many famous ancient scientist such as Hippocrates, Aristotle, and Galen. Most of the descriptions given by those scientists were proven wrong by modern science, so not only did Mohammed plagerized the work of others, he also copied inaccurate scientific information.
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
So why you are Christian, if you believe that evolution is cause to created you ?
An omnipotent god could easily have designed the universe with the needed laws for an unintelligent process like evolution to create humans. Believing one doesn't discount the other.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That was an analogy. The "map" started as something simple and became something complex.
it's already compacted and designed ,so it's already complex

it's like decompressing a 747 Boieng plane from less than 0.005g
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
We can give you facts, point you to the science but we can not give you understanding.
Sorry you don't give me facts , you gave me "words". some said "it's about System", someone said"evolution" , "some one , not it's "DNA changing ","analogy".

Some one I ask him about zygote , he post me a link about the evolution of eyes !!!

Science don't know how the map of body insert in zygote, who gave instruction.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Sorry you don't give me facts , you gave me "words". some said "it's about System", someone said"evolution" , "some one , not it's "DNA changing ","analogy".

Some one I ask him about zygote , he post me a link about the evolution of eyes !!!

Science don't know how the map of body insert in zygote, who gave instruction.

As I said.. we can not give you understanding.
you must study these things yourself, and without preconceptions.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That was an analogy. The "map" started as something simple and became something complex.
if it's about analogy, there would be two to every organ.that's does not creat/build something had variat organs and systems.
who insert the map " of your body" into zygote ?

No it's not started as something simple and became something complex. it's already was highly complex
I gave the exemple of Boeing 747 extracted from 0.005g
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
From the answsers that you gave,I feel that you don't even know what I talking about.

Of course I do...
You believe that God set the detailed plan for how man develops from the egg.
Which is of course nonsense.

However he may have ensured that life develops throughout the universe, in various forms, from the basic materials of his creation and the laws of science.
That we on this earth have reached our present form, at this time, is down to those laws as they apply to evolution.
That we look the way we presently do, and have the abilities that we have, is down to the stage of evolution we have now reached.
This is not an end point. We and the rest of creation are subject to continuous evolutionary change.
Because those changes are continuous and unending, there can be no final detailed plan.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
it's already compacted and designed ,so it's already complex

it's like decompressing a 747 Boieng plane from less than 0.005g

But the design was created and changed along the way. It took millions and millions of years until we got to this point.

To put it another way, this forum at its very start was incredibly simple. It had no posts, no topics, no sub-forums, no DIR.... Those were created as time went by.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Aw , you don't get my opinion until now , that's analyse/observation .

Eye did not made it self, that was instructions/plan of structure in zygote/DNA.

Did you read the link ?

It explains how the eye evolved into what we have today. Originally it was something much more simple.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
No, it's not acceptable fact , don't compare gravity to evolution,because are not the same thing.
-evolution theory is remain theory not fact.

Gravity is explained by Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. You're the one who said a theory is not a fact so you're either saying you don't think gravity is a fact or you don't understand what 'theory' means. Which is it?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Gravity is explained by Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. You're the one who said a theory is not a fact so you're either saying you don't think gravity is a fact or you don't understand what 'theory' means. Which is it?
Gravity is no more theory since it's become fact.
Evolution is still theory.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Did you read the link ?

It explains how the eye evolved into what we have today. Originally it was something much more simple.

It's obsever/analyse the stages, not explain how it's evolved it self, who made the plan

single cell can't become an eye, without instructions (plan).
But the design was created and changed along the way. It took millions and millions of years until we got to this point.

To put it another way, this forum at its very start was incredibly simple. It had no posts, no topics, no sub-forums, no DIR.... Those were created as time went by.

logicallly/wisdom millions of years can't design anything from nothing.
when you proof me that This Forum (RF) creat it self,and post and sub-forums, DIRs, NOT someone design it.I will be in your side.
 
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