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Why some people care about degree of nudity of Muslims women?

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Some people believe that any woman who wears hijab, niqab, etc., is being forced to wear it and that freedom for women equals wearing less. In Egypt, there are some secularists who have called for a ban on hijab and niqab. I have a secularist friend who says that no woman wears hijab or niqab out of her own choice. That, of course, is a ridiculous belief, since many, many women, including most women I know, wear hijab or niqab because they want to.

I think many people try to justify their opinions on women's freedoms by saying that women should wear this or that or not wear this or that so as to be "free." Personally, I think true freedom and respect for women is in letting them decide what they want to do, say, or wear. Telling them that they should wear or not wear hijab, niqab, etc., or else they're being "subservient" or "not free" is just condescending and presumptuous, in my opinion.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
Some people believe that any woman who wears hijab, niqab, etc., is being forced to wear it and that freedom for women equals wearing less. In Egypt, there are some secularists who have called for a ban on hijab and niqab. I have a secularist friend who says that no woman wears hijab or niqab out of her own choice. That, of course, is a ridiculous belief, since many, many women, including most women I know, wear hijab or niqab because they want to.
Thanks for this input, this is what trying to say them,but they don't believe me lol


I think many people try to justify their opinions on women's freedoms by saying that women should wear this or that or not wear this or that so as to be "free." Personally, I think true freedom and respect for women is in letting them decide what they want to do, say, or wear. Telling them that they should wear or not wear hijab, niqab, etc., or else they're being "subservient" or "not free" is just condescending and presumptuous, in my opinion.
I do agree with you they are suppose to be free.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
What kind of oppression in wearing a decent dress, in which way it hurts and oppresses woman?
Like these 'decent dresses' ? Are you sirius? Do you know what we are talking about?
burka.jpg
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Like these 'decent dresses' ? Are you sirius? Do you know what we are talking about?
burka.jpg

We're talking about a decent dress as required by Islam.

The difference between me an you that i choose my wife to be conservative similar to this woman

Turkish-hijab-Style-770x470.jpg



Whereas you don't mind if your wife is looking like this



sexy%20seductive%20dress%20white%20back%20%28253x500%29-500x500.jpg
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
We're talking about a decent dress as required by Islam.

The difference between me an you that i choose my wife to be conservative similar to this woman

Turkish-hijab-Style-770x470.jpg



Whereas you don't mind if your wife is looking like this



sexy%20seductive%20dress%20white%20back%20%28253x500%29-500x500.jpg
This is ignorant on many levels. First off, you don't know anything about me and /or my wife or if I even have one. Secondly, 'required'? That is exactly what we are pointing out here, controlling women is wrong, period.

Next, you choose your wife to be conservative? Why don't you let her choose? Oh yeah, control.

Lastly, the pics you chose are one sided.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
This is ignorant on many levels. First off, you don't know anything about me and /or my wife or if I even have one. Secondly, 'required'? That is exactly what we are pointing out here, controlling women is wrong, period.

Next, you choose your wife to be conservative? Why don't you let her choose? Oh yeah, control.

Lastly, the pics you chose are one sided.

You believe that your wife should be free and hence she can choose to wear a semi naked dress.
I know you have no other choices other than to accept, that's really sad.

Am i wrong?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
We're talking about a decent dress as required by Islam.
It's that "required" word that is the problem. A woman, or man, shouldn't have to be required to dress any certain way. And instead of the picture you posted, what about women who dress like this:
denim-shirt-crew-neck-t-shirt-skinny-jeans-ankle-boots-crossbody-bag-large-8447.jpg

Or my preferred look:
f4494e8ea24eefa8d8128b5ef879bc5b.jpg
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Haha, are you still gonna blame it on Muslims?

Most of the extremists in India are Hindus.

http://scroll.in/article/718458/most-extremists-in-india-are-not-muslim-they-are-hindu

What makes you sure of not all of them abuse Women, many do, in fact rape.

In no way am i trying to generalize Hindus, like you are to Muslims, but accept the fact that there are Hindu extremists because you repeatedly act as if Hindus are a perfect ethnic group which none are.

:)


And your point is?
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
You believe that your wife should be free and hence she can choose to wear a semi naked dress.
I know you have no other choices other than to accept, that's really sad.

Am i wrong?
I assume you mean somebody's wife in general, since you don't know whether I have a wife or not?
In any case . . .
"your wife should be free" . . . I agree
"she can choose to wear a semi naked dress" . . . I agree
"I know you have no other choices other than to accept" . . . this makes no sense at all, maybe you could elaborate on it?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Hello all

Just notice these days that some people blame the Muslims because of way of dress of our women !!

Not all Muslims are wearing Hijab , and Not all whom covering their hairs,covering well their body ....etc

For them maybe the degree that women shows their privet parts , the degree they consider them free !

Seems to me that those who care most about how women dress are muslims
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
We're talking about a decent dress as required by Islam.

The difference between me an you that i choose my wife to be conservative similar to this woman

Turkish-hijab-Style-770x470.jpg



Whereas you don't mind if your wife is looking like this



sexy%20seductive%20dress%20white%20back%20%28253x500%29-500x500.jpg

The first lady is very beautiful.
:)
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
Seems to me that those who care most about how women dress are muslims
On general all men cares about women dress .

Just most of Muslims don't let/accept that their wives or daughters wear sexy dress in public areas.
but most of non-Muslims (especially Westerners) accept that their wives or daughters wear sexy dress in public areas.

I meant by "sexy dress" tight or short or invisible .
 

blue taylor

Active Member
We're talking about a decent dress as required by Islam.

The difference between me an you that i choose my wife to be conservative similar to this woman

Turkish-hijab-Style-770x470.jpg



Whereas you don't mind if your wife is looking like this



sexy%20seductive%20dress%20white%20back%20%28253x500%29-500x500.jpg
I wish my wife was looking like that. I don't go in for the "Cousin It" look though.
 
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