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Same faith debate !?
I wud appreciate if you stop posting out of topic posts.interpolation [in-tur-puh-ley-shuh n]:
noun
1. the act or process of interpolating or the state of being interpolated.
2. something interpolated, as a passage introduced into a text.
3. Mathematics:
a) the process of determining the value of a function between two points at which it has prescribed values.
b) a similar process using more than two points at which the function has prescribed values.
c) the process of approximating a given function by using its values at a discrete set of points.
I hate ISCKON with passion because of their ridiculous injections and corrupting the history of vedantik scholars just the sentiment that the author of dvaita school reflected in the OP. I think with the modern age internet, ISCKON cannot bluff people no longer in their scriptural corruptions.
This hurts me quite deeply. No need to study the Vedas? Are you mad?
you cannot be serious in saying this because he himself has no works to his name and then how can you says according to chaitanya....Not good
Also @निताइ dasa
Also Ratikala almost made me believe that madhva school has accepted this tradition but she is completely wrong and off the mark! Madhvas have distanced you long time back !
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These are junk, anyone would do this for money and Iskcon has lots of money,
So you are accusing the Madhav leaders of taking bribes now?
I am in shock , ....@kalyan ji you canot be serious these are renounced sanyasi !!!
Nanaskaram Nitai dasa ji , ....Jai Jai , ...so you posted the same plea's for sanity , .....Letters from Senior members of Madhava liniage , ....
The link is broken @shivsomashekharExcept, you have not posted the full story.
You missed the final letter in the series. It turned out that the Pejawar Swami who was praising ISKCON had no idea about the stories fabricated by Bhakti Vinoda Takur (on Chaitanya traveling back in time, appearing in Madhva's dream and making him cry).
When The Pejawar Swamy learnt about these fabrications, he issued this (final) letter -
http://www.dvaita.net/pdf/iskcon.pdf
So, it is beyond dispute at this point that the position paper issued by the Poorna Prajna center is well researched and clarifies that ISKCON does not align with the doctrine of Madhva's Tattavada. There is also no way that ISKCON can disavow the writings of BVT - no matter how ludicrous it is - as he is a critical and important figure in the tradition. And that settles the matter.
Besides, after the scandals 15 years ago, when Prabhupada's hand picked disciples - who were to carry the torch forward - were caught and indicted for a series of cases on child abuse, etc., ISKCON lost its attraction. Today, people are much more well educated on the dangers of getting into such cults and so the earlier frenzy has long been dead.
So, it is beyond dispute at this point that the position paper issued by the Poorna Prajna center is well researched and clarifies that ISKCON does not align with the doctrine of Madhva's Tattavada
I am not taking a step back now as the proofs are right in front of my eyes as clear as the sky..You are trying to live in denial and not accepting the truth that isckon and Gaudiya have completely frauded people trying to corrupt histories of famous scholars and promoting anti vedic teachings.....You cannot keep people in dark in Internet age for much longerif Sanyasis accept bribes then the liniage is broken , it is destroyed , Krsna will walk out of Udupi , ....
I am totaly disgusted , .....Kalyan ji you have taken a large step backwards in your sadhana please remember the Qualities you listed some months back , ...please revisit this post , ....please remember some of the things you said , then tell me honestly are you improving in your own personal sadhana by posting provocative and sensationalist threads ?
History needs works...u cannot create people out of thin air...who needs works to his name
Thanks for this.Except, you have not posted the full story.
You missed the final letter in the series. It turned out that the Pejawar Swami who was praising ISKCON had no idea about the stories fabricated by Bhakti Vinoda Takur (on Chaitanya traveling back in time, appearing in Madhva's dream and making him cry).
When The Pejawar Swamy learnt about these fabrications, he issued this (final) letter -
http://www.dvaita.net/pdf/iskcon.pdf
So, it is beyond dispute at this point that the position paper issued by the Poorna Prajna center is well researched and clarifies that ISKCON does not align with the doctrine of Madhva's Tattavada. There is also no way that ISKCON can disavow the writings of BVT - no matter how ludicrous it is - as he is a critical and important figure in the tradition. And that settles the matter.
Besides, after the scandals 15 years ago, when Prabhupada's hand picked disciples - who were to carry the torch forward - were caught and indicted for a series of cases on child abuse, etc., ISKCON lost its attraction. Today, people are much more well educated on the dangers of getting into such cults and so the earlier frenzy has long been dead.
Works for meThe link is broken @shivsomashekhar
What does it say?Thanks for this.
Works for me
Aup, the Rig-Veda refers to Sriman Narayana alone as supreme. Hymns to Indra are not referring to Indra the deva, but it refers to the definition, 'leader'.Vishnu was a minor Indo-Aryan God with a total of six hymns dedicated to him in RigVeda. REFUTE THAT.
(as compared to 289 hymns dedicated to Indra, 218 to Agni and 123 to Soma; and Krishna is not a RigVedic deity)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigvedic_deities
Case closed.