Accepting the lie

[metis]

So you also saying that Ty Woods father is making everything up just because he talked to Fox News. WOW

I've seen way to much garbage put out by Fox to even waste my time reading any links to them. You have the right to post it, but I have the right to ignore it. You don't see me posting stuff from left-wing or right-wing sources as one simply has to remember that they typically have an "agenda"-- sorta the "garbage in-garbage out" problem. If Fox cites anything that's accurate, it's probably because they made a mistake.

 

[esmith]

I've seen way to much garbage put out by Fox to even waste my time reading any links to them. You have the right to post it, but I have the right to ignore it. You don't see me posting stuff from left-wing or right-wing sources as one simply has to remember that they typically have an "agenda"-- sorta the "garbage in-garbage out" problem. If Fox cites anything that's accurate, it's probably because they made a mistake.

So, just where do you get the news that you need to be kept informed about what is going on in the world?

 

[metis]

So, just where do you get the news that you need to be kept informed about what is going on in the world?

Do you really want to know, so OK here it goes:

I start off M-F with one hour of the Today show on NBC, then followed by 1/2 hour of "Morning Joe" on MSNBC (8-8:30).
Then I turn my computer on, catch varied news sources from Yahoo News, BBC, CNN, the Detroit Free Press, and whatever may float my boat that day. During the afternoon, I watch a bit of CNN to get the main stories, and then at 6-7 p.m. I watch ABC News. At about 10, I channel-surf the news if we're not watching something else, even once in a while watching a bit of Fox. On the Sabbath, I don't turn on my computer and I only watch a bit of Good Morning America (ABC) if we're not going to services. On Sunday I do the same, but I may watch some news later in the evening, but more often not.

There's definitely an advantage in being retired.

Aren't you happy you asked?

 

[allfoak]

Hillary is more than your standard political liar.

In a recent interview she has come out and said that she is not human.

See my journal link at the bottom of the page for more info.

 

[esmith]

Do you really want to know, so OK here it goes:

I start off M-F with one hour of the Today show on NBC, then followed by 1/2 hour of "Morning Joe" on MSNBC (8-8:30).
Then I turn my computer on, catch varied news sources from Yahoo News, BBC, CNN, the Detroit Free Press, and whatever may float my boat that day. During the afternoon, I watch a bit of CNN to get the main stories, and then at 6-7 p.m. I watch ABC News. At about 10, I channel-surf the news if we're not watching something else, even once in a while watching a bit of Fox. On the Sabbath, I don't turn on my computer and I only watch a bit of Good Morning America (ABC) if we're not going to services. On Sunday I do the same, but I may watch some news later in the evening, but more often not.

There's definitely an advantage in being retired.

Aren't you happy you asked?

The question was not asked to make me happy or unhappy. Just wondering. Let's take a look at your sources;
Today Show on NBC..... Well NBC's political affiliation is left of center
BBC
CNN....Left of center
Detroit Free Press...not familiar with this news paper....
ABC.....left of center
So, it appears that you prefer left of center, just as I prefer right of center.
I am also retired but limit my exposure to news programs to about 1-2+ hours a day(depending on the major incidents) including local newspapers, and local TV news and ABC news. Yes I watch Fox News and Fox Business; mostly Neil Cavuto or Lou Dobbs, and Shepard Smith. Do not watch the "opinion" shows like Hannity. Turn on Bill O'Reily for my 6PM nap. I admit I am not a "news" junky; but I do like to debate when those involved use facts as their base of argument. I admit that during the winter I read on the average of 1-2 books a week...fiction and non-fiction.

 

[metis]

The question was not asked to make me happy or unhappy. Just wondering. Let's take a look at your sources;
Today Show on NBC..... Well NBC's political affiliation is left of center
BBC
CNN....Left of center
Detroit Free Press...not familiar with this news paper....
ABC.....left of center
So, it appears that you prefer left of center, just as I prefer right of center.
I am also retired but limit my exposure to news programs to about 1-2+ hours a day(depending on the major incidents) including local newspapers, and local TV news and ABC news. Yes I watch Fox News and Fox Business; mostly Neil Cavuto or Lou Dobbs, and Shepard Smith. Do not watch the "opinion" shows like Hannity. Turn on Bill O'Reily for my 6PM nap. I admit I am not a "news" junky; but I do like to debate when those involved use facts as their base of argument. I admit that during the winter I read on the average of 1-2 books a week...fiction and non-fiction.

NBC, ABC, CNN, and CBS are mostly centrist, and one can easily determine that because they invite different sides to speak and they're pretty much equally tough or lenient towards all. Compare that to Fox, which I think everyone realizes is right of center, which is clearly an arm of the Republican Party, especially the more right-wing of it. We also know this because they even admit it.

BTW, even the news parts on Fox are constantly throwing out conservative opinions. For example, after the 2012 election, I watched the next morning Fox coverage, and it was like looking into a funeral home-- unsmiling and shocked faces. The night before Rove went on a rampage when the election was called for Obama, and the talking heads at Fox just sat their trying to figure out what the heck happened. Real news casts don't do that.

People who watch Fox don't want the news-- they want to be patted on the back and told that they're cute little conservatives-- what psychologists call "confirmation bias".

 

[esmith]

NBC, ABC, CNN, and CBS are mostly centrist, and one can easily determine that because they invite different sides to speak and they're pretty much equally tough or lenient towards all. Compare that to Fox, which I think everyone realizes is right of center, which is clearly an arm of the Republican Party, especially the more right-wing of it. We also know this because they even admit it.

BTW, even the news parts on Fox are constantly throwing out conservative opinions. For example, after the 2012 election, I watched the next morning Fox coverage, and it was like looking into a funeral home-- unsmiling and shocked faces. The night before Rove went on a rampage when the election was called for Obama, and the talking heads at Fox just sat their trying to figure out what the heck happened. Real news casts don't do that.

People who watch Fox don't want the news-- they want to be patted on the back and told that they're cute little conservatives-- what psychologists call "confirmation bias".

Well maybe you should watch a little more of Fox News. On left vs right issues they have a contributor from the left and the right. Ever hear of Juan Williams, Alan Colmes, Kirsten Powers, and numerous others. Of course if you read the comments about those espousing the liberal agenda on Fox News they are painted as losers in the "new Democratic Party" (read far far left)

 

[metis]

Well maybe you should watch a little more of Fox News. On left vs right issues they have a contributor from the left and the right. Ever hear of Juan Williams, Alan Colmes, Kirsten Powers, and numerous others. Of course if you read the comments about those espousing the liberal agenda on Fox News they are painted as losers in the "new Democratic Party" (read far far left)

I have indeed run across them, and it's very "interesting" how they're typically handled. Colmes was removed from a more equal position opposite Hannity, and I actually watched that show at times.

Anyone who seriously thinks that Fox is somehow in any way close to being neutral, especially when they admit they're not, simply is "seeing" only what they want to see. It's about as "fair and balanced" as MSNBC is, and I'll admit without reservation the latter certainly isn't, but it seems you can't quite come to grips with admitting that Fox isn't either.

 

[YmirGF]

I have indeed run across them, and it's very "interesting" how they're typically handled. Colmes was removed from a more equal position opposite Hannity, and I actually watched that show at times.

Anyone who seriously thinks that Fox is somehow in any way close to being neutral, especially when they admit they're not, simply is "seeing" only what they want to see. It's about as "fair and balanced" as MSNBC is, and I'll admit without reservation the latter certainly isn't, but it seems you can't quite come to grips with admitting that Fox isn't either.

I find I can only stomach 60 minutes these days. News just ain't the same since opinion journalism took over the 24/7 news format.

 

[metis]

I find I can only stomach 60 minutes these days. News just ain't the same since opinion journalism took over the 24/7 news format.

By chance, did you ever watch Fareed Zakaria's program entitled "Global Public Square" on CNN on Sunday's? It's the best that I've seen in a long while, maybe going even as far back as "Nightline". He focuses more on international events but does cover at least some national as well. Most of the program he has guests, and most of them are typically top shelf. Fareed will give his opinion at times, but one can easily ignore that since it's usually just at the beginning of the hour program.

 

[esmith]

NBC, ABC, CNN, and CBS are mostly centrist, and one can easily determine that because they invite different sides to speak and they're pretty much equally tough or lenient towards all. Compare that to Fox, which I think everyone realizes is right of center, which is clearly an arm of the Republican Party, especially the more right-wing of it. We also know this because they even admit it.

BTW, even the news parts on Fox are constantly throwing out conservative opinions. For example, after the 2012 election, I watched the next morning Fox coverage, and it was like looking into a funeral home-- unsmiling and shocked faces. The night before Rove went on a rampage when the election was called for Obama, and the talking heads at Fox just sat their trying to figure out what the heck happened. Real news casts don't do that.

People who watch Fox don't want the news-- they want to be patted on the back and told that they're cute little conservatives-- what psychologists call "confirmation bias".

Now I agree that those that watch Fox News lean conservative. However, they seem to be the only "major" news source that have conservative viewers. Suggest you take a look at
. http://www.businessinsider.com/what...et-says-about-your-political-ideology-2014-10
and examine who watch what.
ABC,CBS, NBC, CNN mostly liberal. Now that would say that they expound the liberal agenda just as you say Fox News expounds the conservative agenda.
Just because conservatives disagree with liberals doesn't mean we are wrong it just means we disagree with you.
I don't know if you watched the CNBC sideshow but that was an attempt at a hatchet job by the definitely liberal leaning NBC network (see chart at the beginning of the linked article.

 

[psychoslice]

I personally think their all idiots, so it doesn't matter who gets in.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Now I agree that those that watch Fox News lean conservative. However, they seem to be the only "major" news source that have conservative viewers. Suggest you take a look at
. http://www.businessinsider.com/what...et-says-about-your-political-ideology-2014-10
and examine who watch what.
ABC,CBS, NBC, CNN mostly liberal. Now that would say that they expound the liberal agenda just as you say Fox News expounds the conservative agenda.
Just because conservatives disagree with liberals doesn't mean we are wrong it just means we disagree with you.
I don't know if you watched the CNBC sideshow but that was an attempt at a hatchet job by the definitely liberal leaning NBC network (see chart at the beginning of the linked article.

TV-wise, yes. Radio-wise, no.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I don't understand how any American could support a candidate who blatantly and repeatedly lies. I'm speaking of Hillary, of course.

Yes, I know all politicians lie, and much of it is due to their pacs who have such control over them, but none so obvious as HRC.

I have had people tell me they will vote for Hillary, even though they know she is a liar. They put party above all, I guess.

When did America change? Integrity use to matter. Not so much anymore!

Thanks for listening.

A very disgusted and discouraged American,

Katie

Interesting.

So, as someone in favor of integrity and opposed to lying, which candidate do you support?

 

[esmith]

Now I agree that those that watch Fox News lean conservative. However, they seem to be the only "major" news source that have conservative viewers. Suggest you take a look at
. http://www.businessinsider.com/what...et-says-about-your-political-ideology-2014-10
and examine who watch what.
ABC,CBS, NBC, CNN mostly liberal. Now that would say that they expound the liberal agenda just as you say Fox News expounds the conservative agenda.
Just because conservatives disagree with liberals doesn't mean we are wrong it just means we disagree with you.
I don't know if you watched the CNBC sideshow but that was an attempt at a hatchet job by the definitely liberal leaning NBC network (see chart at the beginning of the linked article.

TV-wise, yes. Radio-wise, no.

Do not understand the qist of your post about Radio-wise. I don't think I mentioned anything about radio talk shows (I assume that is the type of radio you are referring to). Please expound on your comment.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Do not understand the qist of your post about Radio-wise. I don't think I mentioned anything about radio talk shows (I assume that is the type of radio you are referring to). Please expound on your comment.

Most tv news shows are not conservative, but most radio news shows are.

 

[metis]

I don't know if you watched the CNBC sideshow but that was an attempt at a hatchet job by the definitely liberal leaning NBC network (see chart at the beginning of the linked article.

I did, and I also thought the questions were pathetic. But also remember Megan Kelly's questions put to Trump in the Fox debate.

The biggest problem with the CNBC debate was that there were very few actual economic questions asked, and yet that was supposed to be the general theme.

 

[Neo Deist]

NBC, ABC, CNN, and CBS are mostly centrist, and one can easily determine that because they invite different sides to speak and they're pretty much equally tough or lenient towards all. Compare that to Fox, which I think everyone realizes is right of center, which is clearly an arm of the Republican Party, especially the more right-wing of it. We also know this because they even admit it.

BTW, even the news parts on Fox are constantly throwing out conservative opinions. For example, after the 2012 election, I watched the next morning Fox coverage, and it was like looking into a funeral home-- unsmiling and shocked faces. The night before Rove went on a rampage when the election was called for Obama, and the talking heads at Fox just sat their trying to figure out what the heck happened. Real news casts don't do that.

People who watch Fox don't want the news-- they want to be patted on the back and told that they're cute little conservatives-- what psychologists call "confirmation bias".

Some conservative critics of the media say liberal bias exists within a wide variety of media channels, especially within the "Main Stream Media", including network news shows of CBS, ABC, and NBC, cable channels CNN, MSNBC and the former Current TV, as well as major newspapers, news-wires, and radio outlets, especially CBS News, Newsweek, and The New York Times.[44] These arguments intensified when it was revealed that the Democratic Party received a total donation of $1,020,816, given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks (NBC, CBS, ABC), while the Republican Party received only $142,863 via 193 donations.[45] Both of these figures represent donations made in 2008.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States

 

[metis]

Some conservative critics of the media say liberal bias exists within a wide variety of media channels, especially within the "Main Stream Media", including network news shows of CBS, ABC, and NBC, cable channels CNN, MSNBC and the former Current TV, as well as major newspapers, news-wires, and radio outlets, especially CBS News, Newsweek, and The New York Times.[44] These arguments intensified when it was revealed that the Democratic Party received a total donation of $1,020,816, given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks (NBC, CBS, ABC), while the Republican Party received only $142,863 via 193 donations.[45] Both of these figures represent donations made in 2008.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States

But so much of this really depends on how one defines "liberal". We should remember that both "capitalism" and "democracy" were and actually still are "liberal" ideas. So, instead of using that word, which can be quite subjective in interpretation, maybe it's best to use "Democrat-leaning".

Using that, I would agree that probably at least a slight majority of news people lean more towards the Democratic Party than the Republican Party.

 

[esmith]

But so much of this really depends on how one defines "liberal". We should remember that both "capitalism" and "democracy" were and actually still are "liberal" ideas. So, instead of using that word, which can be quite subjective in interpretation, maybe it's best to use "Democrat-leaning".

Using that, I would agree that probably at least a slight majority of news people lean more towards the Democratic Party than the Republican Party.

Slight majority?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=207
Of course some will say that this is a "right wing" website, but facts are facts.