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How in the world can ANYBODY think the Jews and Christians have the same god, that Jesus is messiah?

rosends

Well-Known Member
Rather than follow your comments like a fool, I will wait until you have posted, and rejected all of my post. When people talk about God, or his written word, God reads their heart condition.
Thank God, I don't have a heart condition.

I rejected everything by showing you that your cited material doesn;t agree with, well, your other cited material.

Genesis
 

catch22

Active Member
Why do I feel like I'm watching an episode of the X-Files or something now...?

Can I have the time back it took me to catch up on this thread? Sigh...
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Somebody asked:
"Are you suggesting that converts are not, and cannot be, "true" Jews?
Are you going to suggest that most modern Jews are Khazar imposters?
Can we look forward to your bringing up The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?"

It would seem somebody knows more than they want to hear. Those three questions are basic history....

It would appear from your response, and correct me if I am wrong that your positions are:
1) Converts are not, and cannot be, "true" Jews.
2) Most modern Jews are Khazar imposters.
3) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a true and authentic presentation of a plot by world Jewry for world domination.

You'll excuse me if I take temporary leave of this conversation. I need to call a supply house and order a large shipment of air sickness (barf) bags. I think I will be handing out a slew of them before this thread runs its course.
 

Domenic

Active Member
It would appear from your response, and correct me if I am wrong that your positions are:
1) Converts are not, and cannot be, "true" Jews.
2) Most modern Jews are Khazar imposters.
3) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a true and authentic presentation of a plot by world Jewry for world domination.

You'll excuse me if I take temporary leave of this conversation. I need to call a supply house and order a large shipment of air sickness (barf) bags. I think I will be handing out a slew of them before this thread runs its course.

Not saying you are of the false Jews, but I have learned it is the nature of false Jews to try and discredit views that expose their lies before they are exposed.
I take your comment, BARF BAGS as a persona insult. I understand how Jesus must have felt dealing with the false Jews. It is clear to see why he asked God, "Father, how much longer?"
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Not saying you are of the false Jews, but I have learned it is the nature of false Jews to try and discredit views that expose their lies before they are exposed.
I take your comment, BARF BAGS as a persona insult. I understand how Jesus must have felt dealing with the false Jews. It is clear to see why he asked God, "Father, how much longer?"

You have misconstrued my remarks as a insult against you. That was not my intent.
 

catch22

Active Member
So is this the path this thread goes? Let's get rid of scholarly debate, sources, citations, notes... scripture. Let's jump on the name-calling, "I'm so offended" bandwagon and forego reasonable conversation?

Let's just get it done right, at least.

 

Domenic

Active Member
So is this the path this thread goes? Let's get rid of scholarly debate, sources, citations, notes... scripture. Let's jump on the name-calling, "I'm so offended" bandwagon and forego reasonable conversation?

Let's just get it done right, at least.


DITTO. Spoken like a true Christian.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Not saying you are of the false Jews, but I have learned it is the nature of false Jews to try and discredit views that expose their lies before they are exposed.
and since you see any views which oppose yours as lies, everything anyone says opposing your view MUST be the statement of a false Jew. Ergo, anyone here who doesn't agree is a false Jew whether or not you say so explicitly.
 

Domenic

Active Member
and since you see any views which oppose yours as lies, everything anyone says opposing your view MUST be the statement of a false Jew. Ergo, anyone here who doesn't agree is a false Jew whether or not you say so explicitly.

No. All you are saying is, "If I do not agree with teachings of what some Jews say, then it is me who is the liar."
Jews who have changed the scriptures are false Jews. And yes I can, and will prove they have changed the scriptures to mislead Christians, and real
Jews. You can scream, name call, say whatever you want...I will let Gods scriptures, and history prove who is a true Jew, and who is a false Jew.
I will prove the star of David (sic) is not the symbol of a true Jew, but that of a false Jew. I will p[rove with scripture the 12 tribes are not in the promised land, and that 1948 is a trick of Satan. A thing God will soon undo,
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
No. All you are saying is, "If I do not agree with teachings of what some Jews say, then it is me who is the liar."
Jews who have changed the scriptures are false Jews. And yes I can, and will prove they have changed the scriptures to mislead Christians, and real
Jews. You can scream, name call, say whatever you want...I will let Gods scriptures, and history prove who is a true Jew, and who is a false Jew.
I will prove the star of David (sic) is not the symbol of a true Jew, but that of a false Jew. I will p[rove with scripture the 12 tribes are not in the promised land, and that 1948 is a trick of Satan. A thing God will soon undo,

You jumped into this thread at #425. Here we are at #611, 186 posts later. While you keep saying you will provide the evidence in support of your claims, so far that is all that you have done - say that you will provide the evidence.

I believe that you are sincere in your beliefs, why else post them on several forums, but until you actually present what you consider to be evidence - be it good, bad or ridiculous - all you are presenting are unsubstantiated claims that approach, if not cross over into, anti-Semitism.
 

catch22

Active Member
You jumped into this thread at #425. Here we are at #611, 186 posts later. While you keep saying you will provide the evidence in support of your claims, so far that is all that you have done - say that you will provide the evidence.

I believe that you are sincere in your beliefs, why else post them on several forums, but until you actually present what you consider to be evidence - be it good, bad or ridiculous - all you are presenting are unsubstantiated claims that approach, if not cross over into, anti-Semitism.

I agree with this fully.

Mark my words! ...probably the last time you'll hear me ever agree with you :) But absolutely, it's time to put up or... well, you know.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
"Obviously the only true Jews are those that have found their way to Jesus Christ in the way "I" believe in him."
 

Domenic

Active Member
You jumped into this thread at #425. Here we are at #611, 186 posts later. While you keep saying you will provide the evidence in support of your claims, so far that is all that you have done - say that you will provide the evidence.

I believe that you are sincere in your beliefs, why else post them on several forums, but until you actually present what you consider to be evidence - be it good, bad or ridiculous - all you are presenting are unsubstantiated claims that approach, if not cross over into, anti-Semitism.

It seems Jews are masters at turning left when Christians question their teachings...You may call me a fool, barf bag, or whatever. When you throw out the anti-Semitism card, you are no better than those who use the race card. I am not Mel Gibson. He did not know the scriptures, or their history...I do, and I have no fear of speaking Gods truth.
I said I would post all I have as my notes unfold. if you can't wait, I would suggest you get a cup of tea, wave your star of Dacid(sic) flag, and tell the world what a fool you think I am. Until then I will post what I have to say my way...not you way.
I don't know if you are a real Jew, or not...you are very close to the line of anti-Christian.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
lol you really are hilarious.

Did you know that prior to the Norman conquests the English Kings flew this flag here
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This changed however to this
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Symbols change. Grow up.
 

Domenic

Active Member
lol you really are hilarious.

Did you know that prior to the Norman conquests the English Kings flew this flag here

Symbols change. Grow up.

I see the Jewish 7 candlestick changed. into the 6 pointed star of the sun god from Egypt. As you already know, the star was not that of David, but his son Solomon after he got into black magic, and fell out of favor with God. is that not the same star on the Jewish flag today?
 
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Eliab ben Benjamin

Active Member
Premium Member
I wonder why you are so Caught up in the Symbols that are used by beliefs other than yours..... when so many of the sects of your own religion use the Pagan symbol of the Cross, ... which dates back far to mithraizm and ancient Egypt ....
 

Domenic

Active Member
I wonder why you are so Caught up in the Symbols that are used by beliefs other than yours..... when so many of the sects of your own religion use the Pagan symbol of the Cross, ... which dates back far to mithraizm and ancient Egypt ....

Why do you assume I am in a religion that uses the cross as a symbol? I am not a member of any religion, nor do I meet with any religion. I have, and still do, CLAIM ALL RELIGIONS ARE FALSE AND TOOLS OF SATAN.
I believe in God YHWH, his son Jesus, and the scriptures that have not been changed by false Jews. You as a Jew, are you for or against false Jews?



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rosends

Well-Known Member
No. All you are saying is, "If I do not agree with teachings of what some Jews say, then it is me who is the liar."
Jews who have changed the scriptures are false Jews. And yes I can, and will prove they have changed the scriptures to mislead Christians, and real
Jews. You can scream, name call, say whatever you want...I will let Gods scriptures, and history prove who is a true Jew, and who is a false Jew.
I will prove the star of David (sic) is not the symbol of a true Jew, but that of a false Jew. I will p[rove with scripture the 12 tribes are not in the promised land, and that 1948 is a trick of Satan. A thing God will soon undo,
Let's just break this down, shall we?
YOU stated that " I have learned it is the nature of false Jews to try and discredit views that expose their lies before they are exposed"
And, you have said that the Jews on this forum turn away from what you have to say, play the anti-Semite card and want you not to say your peace.
Therefore, you are saying that the Jews on this forum are false Jews.

I don't recall calling you a liar -- please show me where I did. i am just trying to confirm exactly what you are saying about anyone who denies your teachings and claims to be a Jew. Can someone reject everything you have said and still be a "real Jew"? If not, then everyone here is false. Simply agree or explain how you disagree.

I have already shown how your reliance on the LXX is flawed, how the star dates back further than you originally claimed, how your understanding of the use of the menorah is wrong and how Judaism doesn't have the menorah as a symbol. You have ignore all of these and other points and still want to claim that your position is substantiated and valid. All anyone wants from you is some basic, verifiable proof and you seem unwilling to provide it.

Why?
 

Domenic

Active Member
Let's just break this down, shall we?
YOU stated that " I have learned it is the nature of false Jews to try and discredit views that expose their lies before they are exposed"
And, you have said that the Jews on this forum turn away from what you have to say, play the anti-Semite card and want you not to say your peace.
Therefore, you are saying that the Jews on this forum are false Jews.

I don't recall calling you a liar -- please show me where I did. i am just trying to confirm exactly what you are saying about anyone who denies your teachings and claims to be a Jew. Can someone reject everything you have said and still be a "real Jew"? If not, then everyone here is false. Simply agree or explain how you disagree.

I have already shown how your reliance on the LXX is flawed, how the star dates back further than you originally claimed, how your understanding of the use of the menorah is wrong and how Judaism doesn't have the menorah as a symbol. You have ignore all of these and other points and still want to claim that your position is substantiated and valid. All anyone wants from you is some basic, verifiable proof and you seem unwilling to provide it.

Why?

1) I never called any member of this forum a false Jew.
2) If people do what false Jew do, it would be a pretty good bet they are false Jews.
3) I have been posting my notes in an order I want to post the. You are upset because I wont post them they way you want me to.
4) I am not anti-Jewish. I as any normal person is anti-false Jews.
5) I believe the 12 tribes are Gods people.There is not 12 tribes, and if you add the false Jews in with the twelve, you would be in error..that would be 13..

If you do not like how I am posting my notes. stop reading them. Why do you think I should believe what you have posted on the LXX? I intend to prove much of the present teaching are false, and the scriptures have been changed.
I am done talking to you on the subject until all my notes are posted. I will be off for a few days because I have writing to do...it is how I make my living.
 
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