so it is not true that each culture thinks theirs is the best culture.
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Multiculturalism:Your Opinion
- Thread starter Phil25
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so it is not true that each culture thinks theirs is the best culture.
I think my native language (Swedish) is boring, plain and sounds silly. But I dont think thats a reason for killing it.
Its a shame when languages die.
illykitty
RF's pet cat
But that's subjective. Sicilian could sound wonderful to someone else. Do you want everything you dislike eliminated? Only things you like allowed to exist?
of course not. But if Sicilians already speak a language (Italian), I don't see why they should speak two. Given that Sicilian is like a deformed Italian
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I have found that wildly fascinating since I started learning Japanese. America, a highly individualistic society, has just I and me to refer to ourselves. Japan, a highly collectivist society, has several ways to refer to yourself. When compared to other cultures, it seems America has not actually embraced individuality but rather threw it out the window. It seems individuality hardly applies outside of union busting and "self-accountability" outside of the free market.
I don't know how pizza is pronounced in Italian, but in English it's with a "ts" sound. So, phonetically, it's "pee-tsa". The "ts" sound is frequently used in Japanese, which I find very lovely to hear.
In any case, I have heard Italian before, and French. They sound equally beautiful to me. Besides, French is only "refined" more by reputation than actuality. One reason I'm not as interested in learning it is because you have to speak it through your nose.
Makes sense that we would be highly interested in linguistic preservation considering our.... history.
Only one way to refer to oneself indicates an apparent value of an individual, entirely apart from any context. "I" am just valuable. Japan, being more socially-minded, has many. To me, this says that they place no value on an individual except in the context of others. This makes SO much more sense to me. "I" have no value except in the context of my environment and social circle. Since we're a social species, that's perfect in my mind. Plus, which form of "I" being used is capable of communicating a lot about the person.
Take, for instance, this phrase: ore wa onna! ("I am female") Those who speak Japanese are probably giggling.
well...the term pizza is Italian so you Americans pronounce it exactly as Italians do. And the ts sound is exactly what I was talking about. It is really an uncool sound...and we have it in many words
tell me about it! Speaking French is not relaxing at all. You have to keep your lips closer than usual, and you have to produce lots of nasal sounds. Italians are comfortable and feel relaxed when they talk Spanish.
I bet you Americans find Spanish and Italian almost identical. Actually it is true. From a phonetic point of view, they are incredibly similar.
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Well, I like the sound. ^_^
If I heard two sentences side-by-side in Spanish and Italian, it might take me a second to distinguish the two. It would likely be the accent, finally, that does it.
But, see, that's my point. All languages have their faults, and their benefits. French, though nasally, is still quite lovely. But so is Italian. I've never heard Sicilian, but I saw it next to Italian, and they looked comparable.
Besides, I still think that in terms of phonetic and visual beauty together, Finnish beats them all. :angel2:
Mieleni minun tekevi, aivoni ajattelevi
lähteäni laulamahan, saa'ani sanelemahan,
sukuvirttä suoltamahan, lajivirttä laulamahan.
Sanat suussani sulavat, puhe'et putoelevat,
kielelleni kerkiävät, hampahilleni hajoovat .
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I don't see how having only one way to refer to yourself is a strong indication of being an individual, because you simply cannot be anything without having others as a reference point. Without realizing "I" is being shaped and influenced of other cultures, how can "I" hope to shape itself unless it recognizes it needs others to define itself, and without others it can't even exist.Only one way to refer to oneself indicates an apparent value of an individual, entirely apart from any context. "I" am just valuable. Japan, being more socially-minded, has many. To me, this says that they place no value on an individual except in the context of others. This makes SO much more sense to me. "I" have no value except in the context of my environment and social circle. Since we're a social species, that's perfect in my mind. Plus, which form of "I" being used is capable of communicating a lot about the person.
Take, for instance, this phrase: ore wa onna! ("I am female") Those who speak Japanese are probably giggling.
I wasn't talking about the state of individual-being, but of value.
It's based more on the fascinating contrast between US and Japanese culture: the US pan-culture greatly values the lone, nameless Cowboy archetype, while the Japanese place much greater emphasis on the Team.
Superman vs. Super Sentai, if you will. (For those unaware, Super Sentai is better known in the English-speaking world by its US counterpart, Power Rangers).
It's more that I observed this contrast, and then noticed it manifest in the differences in how we refer to ourselves.
Alceste
Vagabond
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
The individual being is what I was originally referring to. The lone Cowboy is the American archetype, but we are also very unaware of social influence make make us a part of a group and allow us to distinguish ourselves from the group. We say we are individualist, but all "I" can ever be is nothing more than I with a list of adjectives. For all our "individuality," we don't even have a feminine or masculine way of I. Our rugged Cowboy has no "boku" to state his masculinity when declaring himself to a another.
False. French is not spoken through the nose, but through puckered lips.
actually the nasalization is when you use the nose to pronounce a vowel.
nasal sounds are in
mon
en
un
an
on
and so on
Exactly. :yes: I actually think the Japanese language is better at expressing this.
I very much believe that the language we speak, and the way we speak it, both influences and reflects the way we see things. Some languages are better for certain tasks than others. Loan words can only do so much; there's no way I can incorporate boku when speaking English.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
As I said maybe so, and maybe not, I can't say it doesn't happen, because being human It certainly would.
there are cultures which objectively are worse than others.
Whiterain
Get me off of this planet
The genocide needed to fix the situations is immense.
It's a little to far gone to argue with it.
As far as politics, Japan may never have a Negro emperor and the English Royal family is more than likely going to stay caucus..
Bosnia is the last region to go through an Ethnic cleansing, tmk.
I go to ask for a therapist, they assign me a Chinese immigrated psychiatrist with a deplorable accent and Chinese ideology, I ask for a new quack.
They assign me a Hindu psychiatrist with a Hindi accent with Hindi ideology.
German is to much to ask for and prudently I'm racist.
It's a little to far gone to argue with it.
As far as politics, Japan may never have a Negro emperor and the English Royal family is more than likely going to stay caucus..
Bosnia is the last region to go through an Ethnic cleansing, tmk.
I go to ask for a therapist, they assign me a Chinese immigrated psychiatrist with a deplorable accent and Chinese ideology, I ask for a new quack.
They assign me a Hindu psychiatrist with a Hindi accent with Hindi ideology.
German is to much to ask for and prudently I'm racist.
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Wirey
Fartist
Actually, French and Italian are both spoken at about 300 to 1000 hertz. English, like German, is spoken at about 1000 to 3000 hertz. I speak English and some French (Mon Dieu!) and the easiest way to avoid an accent in French is to slow down, while in English you should speed up.