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What Makes Something Sacred?

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
What is "sacred" is whatever we individually or collectively attribute that meaning to.

A Holy Book.

A cow.

Marriage.

An altar.

Children.

Religious imagery.

It really is up to us to not only decide what specifically is sacred, but what that word actually means.
:eek:
you left out sex?!
:eek:


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Thief

Rogue Theologian
Bingo.
Although some people believe that what they consider sacred is also what their god considers sacred.
And some of those people think that what they think their god considers sacred, the whole of the world is supposed to consider sacred.


but god considers it sacred and therefore you have to as well.
And if you don't then my god will do terrible nasty things to you.

you have been warned...


:facepalm:

Well gee...matters of the spirit as sacred?
What goes through your mind and heart are not important to God?

What goes through your hand is one thing.
None of that follows you into the next life.

Declare a thing sacred and you will leave it behind as you die.

Things of mind and heart are more important are they not?
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Well gee...matters of the spirit as sacred?
What goes through your mind and heart are not important to God?

What goes through your hand is one thing.
None of that follows you into the next life.

Declare a thing sacred and you will leave it behind as you die.

Things of mind and heart are more important are they not?
If you are merely going to preach, please stop using my posts as your launch point.

the fact is that I made no mention what so ever of "spiritual things" or "material things".
you pulled that nonsense out your backside in order to preach.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
If you are merely going to preach, please stop using my posts as your launch point.

the fact is that I made no mention what so ever of "spiritual things" or "material things".
you pulled that nonsense out your backside in order to preach.
One trick pony. Shetland, I reckon.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
If you are merely going to preach, please stop using my posts as your launch point.

the fact is that I made no mention what so ever of "spiritual things" or "material things".
you pulled that nonsense out your backside in order to preach.

No....I pulled the idea from previous posts in this thread.

Not up for spiritual discussion?
Not up to say what is truly sacred?
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
No....I pulled the idea from previous posts in this thread.

Not up for spiritual discussion?
Not up to say what is truly sacred?
I know that you are not likely to understand this, but "sacred" is not restricted solely to 'spiritual'.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
If not spiritual...then it's political, military, or economic....
none of which is sacred.
Says you.
But then you are one who advocates anything that is dreamed up to be valid so long as some one has faith in it.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
If not spiritual...then it's political, military, or economic....
none of which is sacred.

What about a library? A wealth of knowledge and history. To some a library, books themselves, are considered sacred for what they contain and the knowledge they pass on. Knowledge itself can be easily considered sacred. As well as education. Without which, both individuals and societies alike can flounder and fail. Those such thing can be taken to be special, of higher importance than most other things in life, to be highly regarded and treasured...thus...sacred. So no, not all that can be sacred must be spiritual in nature.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
So...inanimate objects deserve your worship?

Man and his methods to be held in high esteem and regard?

And the Almighty and heaven would do likewise?
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Assuming at least some things are sacred, what makes them sacred? What makes something profane? If it is as simple as "god makes things sacred" then why is the notion of the sacred present in animism (which lacks a notion of god)?

A closely related question: What does it mean to say that something is sacred?
I believe that sacredness means a space, an item or more abstract things which are of important significance on cultural or historical levels.
even if I am not a Bible believer, I believe the Bible to be sacred because of its timeless content, and the profound historical and cultural role it has played throughout the centuries, it is both a subconscious and a conscious sense of respect. the content of things, the effort put into them, and their importance to the cultures of the world are some of the elements which make something sacred.
to give an analogy, think of young Indiana Jones, as a young man he fought to restore a single gold cross from the 15th or 16th century and get it into a museum because of his sense for the preservation of history, while the bandits he confronted wanted to sell it for money. this is what I'm getting at here.
think about this: sometimes we hear people say 'nothing is sacred any more', what they mean to say is that many people do not show respect any more, people will smear anything and would not show a sense of appreciation for context or space.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
So...inanimate objects deserve your worship?

Man and his methods to be held in high esteem and regard?

And the Almighty and heaven would do likewise?

Who said anything about worship? Sacred does not mean "must worship".

Definition of SACRED

1
a : dedicated or set apart for the service or worship of a deity <a tree sacred to the gods>
b : devoted exclusively to one service or use (as of a person or purpose) <a fund sacred to charity>
2
a : worthy of religious veneration : holy
b : entitled to reverence and respect
3
: of or relating to religion : not secular or profane <sacred music>
4
archaic : accursed
5
a : unassailable, inviolable
b : highly valued and important <a sacred responsibility>

And why shouldn't certain things be held in high esteem and regard? Do you believe that nothing in life has any meaning or importance to it unless it is of your god?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Who said anything about worship? Sacred does not mean "must worship".



And why shouldn't certain things be held in high esteem and regard? Do you believe that nothing in life has any meaning or importance to it unless it is of your god?

So you ask why worship....and then quote a definition that includes the notation!

All that you hold, you will leave behind.
All that you hold in mind and heart will be with you as you stand before God.

Sacred in this life?....anything to hold before God and claim it to be holy?

He would probably tell you....
'Put it down...leave it...don't look back.'
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
So you ask why worship....and then quote a definition that includes the notation!
Really?
Where in that whole quoted definition does it say that what is considered sacred must be worshiped?
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
So you ask why worship....and then quote a definition that includes the notation!

All that you hold, you will leave behind.
All that you hold in mind and heart will be with you as you stand before God.

Sacred in this life?....anything to hold before God and claim it to be holy?

He would probably tell you....
'Put it down...leave it...don't look back.'

Do you honestly not understand the difference between what it is to honor or respect something and what it means to worship?
 

AmbiguousGuy

Well-Known Member
but god considers it sacred and therefore you have to as well.
And if you don't then my god will do terrible nasty things to you.

you have been warned...

:facepalm:

I bare my naked hinney in the general direction of all other gods than my own.

Actually, come to think of it, I moon Him a lot, too. He's a sucker for that kind of thing. It breaks Him up every time.
 
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