Myers
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I find that hard to believe... Fear is that strong of an emotion?
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Shoe is on the other foot: Prove there is not God.
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I find that hard to believe... Fear is that strong of an emotion?
Myers
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Do give an example...
I wont as to the repercussions, some things are personal.
As to the blessings, I have never gone hungry. I have received large amounts of money up to 10,000 at a time.
There are explanations for all of this but the when and how are where God comes into play!
Here ya go. I stopped contributing to my 401K to buy a truck! A week later I get a raise (4Kpy).
I sold the truck a few years later, then brother in law died after I sold it and the money helped pay for his funeral.
As to the blessings, I have never gone hungry. I have received large amounts of money up to 10,000 at a time.
There are explanations for all of this but the when and how are where God comes into play!
Here ya go. I stopped contributing to my 401K to buy a truck! A week later I get a raise (4Kpy).
I sold the truck a few years later, then brother in law died after I sold it and the money helped pay for his funeral.
Myers
Member
I won nearly $78,000 in black jack. That doesn't mean I'm blessed by God. If anything, I'm cursed.
Who said I won?
I had an auto accident in 91' 10000+ in hospital bills, I never saw a bill. It was paid, by who? From the same accident I was paralyzed on my right side, I walked out of the hospital! 6 weeks later I was back to work.
Humanistheart
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The christian god is in that category, The fact is the abrahamic god is not one entity, but a phrase to describe several versions of him. Jews, christians, muslims, and mormons all claim to worship the abrahamic god, but they all paint a very different picture of him. Since the OP did not clarify a specific god, I went with the most common version of him today, the christian version. Unless your arguing that christianity is not in the abrahamic tradition, disproving jesus fit's in just fine with the OP.
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Humanistheart
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I read the first post and the title of the thread
Shoe is on the other foot: Prove there is not God.
Well prove it.
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so, until someone comes up with a nice check list of who this Jehova is...
a fully comprehensive one, that covers all the basis... I'm thinking maybe a 100,000,000 word post.....(give or take 10 million) then God cannot be proven OR disproven.....
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that IS the topic of this thread, right?
Oh, then perhaps I'm wrong. Can you show me where in the OP 'johava' was stipulated as the specific god in question?
Humanistheart
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If Johava was specified you might have a point, can you show me where in the OP that was the case?
enchanted_one1975
Resident Lycanthrope
I wouldn't say the same footing exists in all cases. Some of us communicate with our Deities. I don't see how I can communicate with what doesn't exist. Therefore I will never be swayed that my Gods and Goddesses do not exist. On the other hand, if one does not communicate with Deities, that does not mean that they don't exist.
Humanistheart
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Exactly!
dogsgod
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What God?
Humanistheart
Well-Known Member
That may be a good idea.
Isaiah 11:1 Show's us the messiah must be of the bloodline of david. We don't have marry's lineage and Jospeh is not the biological father so that's out.
Ezekiel 37:26-28 - Build the Third Temple; Jesus didn't do this and to my knowledge no one else has yet either.
Isaiah 43:5-6 - The messiah will gather all jewish people back to their promised land of Isreal. The jewish diaspora only worsened after jesus, and the death of his portrayed in the bible has been a nifty excuse through the years to abuse jewish people.
Isaiah 2:4 The messiah is to usher in an age of peace and prosperity for the world. Jesus did not do this. He was in fact viewed as a criminal in his time, and christian followers have braught an immence amount of war and death in their short time on this earth. Quite the opposite of the prophecy.
Zechariah 14:9 The messiah will bring the world to one single true understanding of Yaweigh. Jesus did not accomplish this. In fact christianity has led to numerous offshoot religions, further confusing the concept of the god of abraham.
Deut. 13:1-4, while not a messianic prophecy, says that anyone who commes to change torah, to change the law, is a false prophet. Jesus changed a lot of things now didn't he.
Etc etc. Jesus was not a messiah, he was not a god, so yes, we can conclude the christian god concept has been disproved.
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Humanistheart
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Can you prove or offer ANY evidence you do communicate with any deities?
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Humanistheart
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I already did disprove him so no, we're not on the same footing.
dogsgod
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How does one go about disproving a mythological character? Why bother?
Humanistheart
Well-Known Member
By showing contradiction in their dogma. By revealing false translations, misapropriated ideas, etc etc it can be done. It's not exactly difficult. You couldn't do it with bhuddsim or other certian other religions but the abrahamic religions are easy enough to disprove, particularly christianity, if you have the knowledge.
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Humanistheart
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I personally like The Oh-God of Hangovers.
Humanistheart
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Your religion only says something like 'I follow the bible' so witch religion you are I cannot assertain. However if it is the chrisitan bible you refer to remmember jesus said those who call others fools in anger are surely endanger of hell fire. Of course he himself routinely called or implied other's were fools so I guess the christians task is to decide, should I do as jesus said or as he did?