Did God rape Mary?

[richardlowellt]

With imagination and emotion, which are equally important to the human experience.

Imagination? that you can imagine something unreal? That you can get emotional over a nonexistent entity? I can imagine many things unreal, I find it hard to get emotional over these things, and to what end does one imagine unreal things?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Imagination? that you can imagine something unreal? That you can get emotional over a nonexistent entity? I can imagine many things unreal, I find it hard to get emotional over these things, and to what end does one imagine unreal things?

Why not? Where would we be without imagining unreal things? Both the arts and science would be lacking. (Since, after all, many scientific concepts have been made from imaginative leaps and may as well have not existed before then.)

I get pretty emotional over things in my imagination. A good book can bring me to tears. A song can lift me to euphoric heights.

Pictures of fantastic beings can inspire my wonder.

Why shouldn't an imaginary thing be "unreal"? And why shouldn't it provide us with powerful emotional meaning?

 

[richardlowellt]

Why not? Where would we be without imagining unreal things? Both the arts and science would be lacking. (Since, after all, many scientific concepts have been made from imaginative leaps and may as well have not existed before then.)

I get pretty emotional over things in my imagination. A good book can bring me to tears. A song can lift me to euphoric heights.

Pictures of fantastic beings can inspire my wonder.

Why shouldn't an imaginary thing be "unreal"? And why shouldn't it provide us with powerful emotional meaning?

Books, music, and Art are from the real world, we imagine things based on real world experiences, all things imagined have there roots in the naturalistic realm, imagining an entity without shape, form, or any other reference is unreasonable, and not very logical.

 

[twinmama]

Well, we have no reason to think Mary was impregnated by a ghost outside the NT Gospels. In those books, Mary consented willingly, and there is no indication she was younger than the prevailing age of consent.

concidering the time, girls married very young so 12 or 13 could very well be true.

 

[kai]

concidering the time, girls married very young so 12 or 13 could very well be true.

according to the story she was chosen at the time of the immaculate conception far younger than the age of consent. If you believe in the immaculate conception of Mary then it was all planned by God. I suppose we could pick and choose which parts of the story we wish to beleive. I think the consent thing all depends on the Conception of Mary to be the vessel that carried Jesus --or not

 

[JMorris]

did Zeus really rape the mother of Hercules? where was the Garden of Eden actually located? and did the dish really run away with the spoon?

all very important questions.

 

[kai]

did Zeus really rape the mother of Hercules? where was the Garden of Eden actually located? and did the dish really run away with the spoon?

all very important questions.

if you want them to be!

 

[other-side]

did Zeus really rape the mother of Hercules? where was the Garden of Eden actually located? and did the dish really run away with the spoon?

all very important questions.

questions?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Books, music, and Art are from the real world, we imagine things based on real world experiences, all things imagined have there roots in the naturalistic realm, imagining an entity without shape, form, or any other reference is unreasonable, and not very logical.

And how is mythology any different? Obviously the concept originated somewhere and has a basis in emotion.

Besides, I still say we need not be logical, especially when it comes to dealing with existential issues which are personal and emotional. Why always be logical? Myths are there to provide us with this stuff.

 

[Charles the hammer]

How insain do you need to be?

 

[MissAlice]

Darn it, someone already said it.

But yeah, I would assume Zeus to be the most likely suspect. He's got a long rap sheet for this kind of behavior....

 

[sandy whitelinger]

I understand that some experts consider Mary to be as young as 12 years old. However when God or the holy spirit inseminated Mary without her consent, was this rape?

Here we go again trying to impugn God by using provocative and heinous words that by definition do not apply.

 

[Bloomdido]

Here we go again trying to impugn God by using provocative and heinous words that by definition do not apply.

By whose definition and to whom or what do they not apply? God does enough ipugning on his own without any help from me.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Here we go again trying to impugn God by using provocative and heinous words that by definition do not apply.

Indeed. Something without a penis, testicles, or sperm can't inseminate anything.

 

[MissAlice]

Yet some people even assume god to be a man as he is always referred to as the father.

This tells me either someone had to begotten him or most religions accept this nonesense because it is part of the male's ego as always.

 

[ayani]

there was nothing "con-consentual" about Mary becoming pregnant by the Holy Spirit.

God chose Mary for this job because He knew that she would say "yes". He would not have chosen someone who would have refused, been too sacred to say yes, or have done a poor job of mothering the Saviour. He would not have chosen someone who was un-Godly, or unable to do what He was asking.

also, you will note that in Luke's Gospel, after the angel explains everything that will happen to Mary, Mary responds by saying "i am the Lord's servant, may it be to me as you have said".

as a side note, there is no Biblical indication of how old Mary was when she was engaged to Yosef. she was clearly a young girl , but as to her exact age, the Bible does not say.

I understand that some experts consider Mary to be as young as 12 years old. However when God or the holy spirit inseminated Mary without her consent, was this rape?

 

[kai]

there was nothing "con-consentual" about Mary becoming pregnant by the Holy Spirit.

God chose Mary for this job because He knew that she would say "yes". He would not have chosen someone who would have refused, been too sacred to say yes, or have done a poor job of mothering the Saviour. He would not have chosen someone who was un-Godly, or unable to do what He was asking.

also, you will note that in Luke's Gospel, after the angel explains everything that will happen to Mary, Mary responds by saying "i am the Lord's servant, may it be to me as you have said".

as a side note, there is no Biblical indication of how old Mary was when she was engaged to Yosef. she was clearly a young girl , but as to her exact age, the Bible does not say.

Just one point :

According to Roman Catholics ,Mary was chosen at the point of her own conception ( the immaculate conception) she was born without original sin ( full of Grace)in order to be the vessel that carried Christ.

 

[Tiapan]

I presume Jesus was male. Where did the Y chromosome come from? If there was a virgin birth ie a clone it would be XX ie female. Oh dear the secret is out God is a shemale.

There is significant evidence that the "virgin" bit is a christian invention from misinterpretation of the translation of the Hebrew word for maid(?)

Cheers

 

[Vile Atheist]

Yet some people even assume god to be a man as he is always referred to as the father.

This tells me either someone had to begotten him or most religions accept this nonesense because it is part of the male's ego as always.

Are you suggesting God and Mary had a wonderful lesbo shagging?



As for the question in the OP: Did she say "No" three times?

 

[MissAlice]

Are you suggesting God and Mary had a wonderful lesbo shagging?

Well if that were the case then I would have to assume there was artificial insemination involved.

For shame Mary.....:no: