Homosexuality is not a sin!

[ASA]

Your ignorance is still tiring. Is everyone that stands up for the rights of other automatically have to be part of that group? They way you assume **** sure does seem like it. You don't have to be gay to stand up for gay rights. Just like in the other thread, I don't have to be(or consider myself) a vampire to stand up for them from ignorant people like you. But look that;s getting off-topic.

Funny thing is..that you dont know how to read..i presume..vamps..drank your sanity.. (joke young one) read from the begining...and see the...whole topic..and see it is solved..dont jump..like dog on a bone...read before you flame..and they call me..the purger lol we didnt speak about rights at all..young one..learn to read..and read...read... my..notification that his gay..was not sarcastic...it was...in positive tohughts..wich proven right

 

[Diederick]

@ ASA: So what are you saying here? You're really more debating persons than you are this topic. Do you think it is a sin to be a homosexual, or do you just consider it inappropriate to "kiss in public with your **** hanging out"? Obviously most homosexuals will find that rather inappropriate.

And about what you said, 90% of paedophiles is homosexual: what nonsense. First of all, I find it very hard to believe 90% of all paedophiles only abuses boys. Could you support that claim for me? Secondly, paedophilia is a separate form of sexuality, just like homosexuality and heterosexuality. And thirdly, even if 90% of all paedophiles only abuses boys, that has nothing to do with homosexuals. A percentage of homosexuals will surely be interested in children, but that cannot be much different from heterosexuals. If you think it is, I would like to see you explain that to me.

By respecting each other's opinion a matter is not settled. What is the use of debate when the goal is not to reach a conclusion!? :sarcastic

And yes, I am gay.

 

[ASA]

@ ASA: So what are you saying here? You're really more debating persons than you are this topic. Do you think it is a sin to be a homosexual, or do you just consider it inappropriate to "kiss in public with your **** hanging out"? Obviously most homosexuals will find that rather inappropriate.

And about what you said, 90% of paedophiles is homosexual: what nonsense. First of all, I find it very hard to believe 90% of all paedophiles only abuses boys. Could you support that claim for me? Secondly, paedophilia is a separate form of sexuality, just like homosexuality and heterosexuality. And thirdly, even if 90% of all paedophiles only abuses boys, that has nothing to do with homosexuals. A percentage of homosexuals will surely be interested in children, but that cannot be much different from heterosexuals. If you think it is, I would like to see you explain that to me.

By respecting each other's opinion a matter is not settled. What is the use of debate when the goal is not to reach a conclusion!? :sarcastic

And yes, I am gay.

No no..its not a sin its a sin..when you intercorse with a child that is my opinion..and when you publicly show your extremeties..to children..but homosexuality..like love betwen 2 people is not a sin.. your god made..like me..this 90% was.. from a children abuse agnecy..Unicef! not myself..i was shocked..because as i sad..before i know a few gays a prefectly normal ppl..keep ther bed at home..i dont have anything against kising holding hands..just sexualiy explicit things toward...children..thats all and ive seen that alot..when a 60 years gome come to 15 yeras boy..problem is not in ther sexual.. perference ..its in the child..a grown man..thats sick..for me ..and il stand in front of it..and as many gay pppl i know.. so i have nothing against you personaly..just..i dont like public...sexual parading..in broad daylight..
And its not a SIN! Sin is something else..

 

[BucephalusBB]

Well, as far as I know, this thread wasn't about children? I didn't read all 19 pages though.

I did search for your 90% (specially in combination with unicef) and found it nowhere. As long as you do not provide a good link, it is not true.

 

[Diederick]

But like I said earlier, adults exposing themselves to children has nothing to do with homosexuality. You'd better start a new thread if that's the issue you want to discuss. And I must say that it makes me feel a little uncomfortable to think that it is actually your belief that homosexuals tend to be paedophiles - because they're obviously not (different thing entirely).

Well, as far as I know, this thread wasn't about children? I didn't read all 19 pages though.
I did search for your 90% (specially in combination with unicef) and found it nowhere. As long as you do not provide a good link, it is not true.

Indeed, I think it is grossly misleading what he said. And I don't believe Unicef keeps such records, it seems very off.

But I could be wrong. Again, to ASA, please provide support for your claim (link to something).

 

[Big_TJ]

reality. i understand if thats a hard concept for a homophobe to grasp.

reality? . . . :no: Can you point me to the studies that shows that homophobes overlook female homosexuals because they see females as sex objects rather than humans?

While I certainly cannot speak for all homophobes, I am almost certain that this ascertion is utterly baseless. If this is your opinion as to why certain homophobes overlook female homosexuality, then it should be stated as an opinion; not as a factual statement.

 

[Big_TJ]

So, you say you are sincerely AFRAID of homosexuals?

An homophobe is someone either AFRAID of homosexuals or who HATE homosexuals. I am more of the latter. . .

This strikes me as odd, since we commonly look quite common. Actually, it's quite difficult to pick us out of a crowd.

It is not the PERSON; it is the PERSON + the ACTION. So, just as how I hate a father who molest his child (being its because of mental retardation or not), I have the same feeling towards Homosexuals.

 

[Father Heathen]

An homophobe is someone either AFRAID of homosexuals or who HATE homosexuals. I am more of the latter. . .

Ignorance and bigotry are such pitiful, shameful things.

It is not the PERSON; it is the PERSON + the ACTION. So, just as how I hate a father who molest his child (being its because of mental retardation or not), I have the same feeling towards Homosexuals.

But unlike child molestation, homosexuality doesn't victimize or violate the rights of innocent people.

 

[Big_TJ]

Animal are not condemned for their confusion because they are irrational although I understand that in their behavior there is no penetration and ejaculation (I have seen dogs doing it) as is the case of humans, irrational animals weren’t given the Moral Law to live by and have no two way communication with their creator and they don’t join the Church either.

This raises an interesting question: Are animals behaviours closer to how "GOD" expect all species to behave, since their behaviours are simply natural and not corrupted by "rational" thoughts and by a Church?

My bad .. . Perhaps a next post.

 

[Diederick]

An homophobe is someone either AFRAID of homosexuals or who HATE homosexuals. I am more of the latter. . .

Haha! Oh dear, so how's therapy going? :areyoucra
I guess you've had some really bad experience with a homosexual, or otherwise I couldn't possibly think of a reason you would hate homosexuals at large. We house some of the most intelligent, artistic and kind people in the world - whom you couldn't possibly hate.
Do you know any homosexuals? Personally?

It is not the PERSON; it is the PERSON + the ACTION. So, just as how I hate a father who molest his child (being its because of mental retardation or not), I have the same feeling towards Homosexuals.

Retardation doesn't make people rape other people. And there is nothing wrong with my mind, thank you. It doesn't make much sense to compare homosexuals to a father molesting his child. What is the link? I mean, it's just too absurd for words. Homosexuality and rape are two very different things. You can't compare them. Rape is not a form of sexuality, and homosexuality is not an offense. :slap:

 

[Alceste]

This raises an interesting question: Are animals behaviours closer to how "GOD" expect all species to behave, since their behaviours are simply natural and not corrupted by "rational" thoughts and by a Church?

My bad .. . Perhaps a next post.

Homosexual behavior is rampant in nature - thousands of species indulge in it. So I would say that if there is a Creator god, she's quite open-minded when it comes to sex. She would have to be, considering the abundance of life forms and mating rituals on the planet.

 

[Alceste]

As it has been reported here some churches have change their tenet to appease homosexuals, appointed gay minister that do the twisting of the scripture and work hard to shove them down the throat of the rest of the congregation.

Am I the only person who is greatly amused by Emiliano's frequent use of the phrase "shove it down the throat" in the context of a discussion of homosexuality? I've counted five times so far.

Personally, I've never met a homosexual who tried to shove anything down my throat except beer. Perhaps emilio is accustomed to having things shoved down his throat by homosexuals. Many fundamentalists, it seems, are even willing to pay for the privilege.

 

[Big_TJ]

Ignorance and bigotry are such pitiful, shameful things.




But unlike child molestation, homosexuality doesn't victimize or violate the rights of innocent people.

I Totally agree! don't get me wrong. I am not comparing homosexuality with peodiphiles (?). I was simply stating that I have the same general feeling towards both groups.

Look: It matters not to me if a man want to have sex with another man (providing that it is not rape or something like that). However, it does not mean that I have to like the idea (in fact, the idea of man sleeping with another man is sooo disgusting!). I am led to believe that people are born homosexual since no one in the mind would want to do something so disgusting on their free will.

 

[Big_TJ]

Haha! Oh dear, so how's therapy going? :areyoucra
I guess you've had some really bad experience with a homosexual, or otherwise I couldn't possibly think of a reason you would hate homosexuals at large. We house some of the most intelligent, artistic and kind people in the world - whom you couldn't possibly hate.
Do you know any homosexuals? Personally?
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No (thanks be to God!)

Retardation doesn't make people rape other people. And there is nothing wrong with my mind, thank you. It doesn't make much sense to compare homosexuals to a father molesting his child. What is the link? I mean, it's just too absurd for words. Homosexuality and rape are two very different things. You can't compare them. Rape is not a form of sexuality, and homosexuality is not an offense. :slap:

Perhaps you misinterpreted.. I am not comparing both; I am simply saying I have the same type of feeling towards both.

 

[Alceste]

I am led to believe that people are born homosexual since no one in the mind would want to do something so disgusting on their free will.

I pity your present or future wives and / or girlfriends then, if you are so very disgusting.

 

[Alceste]

Haha! Oh dear, so how's therapy
Do you know any homosexuals? Personally?

No (thanks be to God!)

So, you're singlularly obsessed with the image of a man having sex with with another man, and believe that alone defines what homosexuality is. And you don't think you know any (although you do, of course - everybody does). Maybe your own mind is the real horror, not men who happen to fall in love with men.

Again, how very Freudian.

Perhaps you misinterpreted.. I am not comparing both; I am simply saying I have the same type of feeling towards both.

Maybe if you would lighten up about it, the gay people you know would be comfortable outing themselves to you, allowing you the opportunity to see they are exactly like you (although probably better dressed and better smelling), and to overcome your sexual neurosis.

 

[dragonflygrrrrl]

I find many things distasteful, christianity being one of them, but i dont go around saying that christians shouldnt be allowed to marry, or practice their religion.

Amen, brother.

 

[Diederick]

I Totally agree! don't get me wrong. I am not comparing homosexuality with peodiphiles (?). I was simply stating that I have the same general feeling towards both groups.

That's still a rather troubling notion, that you equate rapists with homosexuals in your mind. Are you so fond of rapists or so ridiculously terrified of homosexuals?

Look: It matters not to me if a man want to have sex with another man (providing that it is not rape or something like that). However, it does not mean that I have to like the idea (in fact, the idea of man sleeping with another man is sooo disgusting!).

You really need to change your tone here. It would be very nice of you to include the words "I think" when you pose a statement that is so off. A line like this: "I think straight sex is sooo disgusting." is far less offensive to straight people than: "Straight sex is sooo disgusting!" Personally, I find straight sex rather awful, mostly because it involves... woman.

I am led to believe that people are born homosexual since no one in the mind would want to do something so disgusting on their free will.

So a murderer is born a murder because no one in his right mind would do something so disgusting? Bad wat to come to conclusions dude.

 

[emiliano]

Am I the only person who is greatly amused by Emiliano's frequent use of the phrase "shove it down the throat" in the context of a discussion of homosexuality? I've counted five times so far.

Personally, I've never met a homosexual who tried to shove anything down my throat except beer. Perhaps emilio is accustomed to having things shoved down his throat by homosexuals. Many fundamentalists, it seems, are even willing to pay for the privilege.

I’ll give some examples, it seem that there is an unwritten law in TV programming that every show must have a homosexual or a lesbian in it and if it has both is much the better, it is as if this disorder affect a great percentage of the population, this is advertising is it not? And the rights we have some bud experiences with the discrimination thing because it has been use as an advantage in promotions at work not to mention in the application for employment, when they don’t get their way they cry discrimination and employers and executives are too afraid of been sue so it work for them, I have not met many gay in life, actually before I came to this board I new five or six of them, not that you can miss them though, the thing with the wrist, the dressing, the walk, if an aliens from out space choose to spy on us by watching our TV programs, they would think that at lest 50% of humans are gays. And that is the power of advertising or the good ole shoving it down the throat. Any way a like you because you proposed a good solution segregation, which I agree to especially in the Church. The gays in the Church that work in a church to change t it tenet, those that use the IR as a weapon, there is conflicts and issues and there casualties, we won’t have and if the church want to do that we leave. What do you think of your trump card “bigot”?

 

[Diederick]

I’ll give some examples, it seem that there is an unwritten law in TV programming that every show must have a homosexual or a lesbian in it and if it has both is much the better, it is as if this disorder affect a great percentage of the population, this is advertising is it not?

Advertising of what? Homosexuality? Or that it is okay to be gay? Either are only positive so I don't see the problem.

And the rights we have some bud experiences with the discrimination thing because it has been use as an advantage in promotions at work not to mention in the application for employment, when they don’t get their way they cry discrimination and employers and executives are too afraid of been sue so it work for them,

A manager can deny a job on grounds that are reasonable - when the person is not fit for the application. A manager cannot deny a person a job on grounds of that person's sexuality. That is all.

I have not met many gay in life, actually before I came to this board I new five or six of them, not that you can miss them though, the thing with the wrist, the dressing, the walk, if an aliens from out space choose to spy on us by watching our TV programs, they would think that at lest 50% of humans are gays.

Very stereotypical of you. Not even half of all homosexuals are as feminine as some stupid people like to describe homosexuals. Besides that, metrosexual men tend to be very straight - sexually.

And that is the power of advertising or the good ole shoving it down the throat. Any way a like you because you proposed a good solution segregation, which I agree to especially in the Church. The gays in the Church that work in a church to change t it tenet, those that use the IR as a weapon, there is conflicts and issues and there casualties, we won’t have and if the church want to do that we leave. What do you think of your trump card “bigot”?

Could you rephrase please, because I really can't make any sense out of this gibberish.