Zakir Naik Debating

[Riverwolf]

I mean main religious like god hell paradise and so on and so forth

That's two religions: Christianity and Islam.

Two religions. Two out of hundreds.

Zakir naik talk about contradiction in bible

There is line describe event in away then in other line it describes same event in opposite way

Then he kept asking me question and I answering him till we end to this point

This man prove that there is contradiction in bible because he left christianti

Honestly, your posts are getting too long and difficult to read. I know there's contradictions in the Bible, but you haven't shown me any of the actual ones, just verses taken out of context. I can do that with the Qur'an, too (haven't had my caffeine, yet, so I won't bother for now.)

Furthermore, the presence of contradictions is pretty unimportant, anyway.

 

[Thoughts]

^_^ In fairness, I was a Hindu for some time, and came across Naik's lies quite often.

I don't think you were able to convince him

Why do not you debate with him

All his debating will be broadcast in tv


We watch and every one do

If he is layer people will notice

Most people were not to beat him

Because of his strong idea

Here is prove that this discoveries is true

Newspaper

Man saying it is true from the same country

In Arabic if u understand

Ancient people were very tall


????? ?????? : ????? ??? ???

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

No not arguing about hindu

But trying to explain him what does god mean

Or do you think god is disable

Religious concept is same in all religion

Because once I explain something he says don't interpete bible
It has different meaning

A few things.
1. Not all religions have similar concepts. Buddhism, Taoism, certain forms of Hinduism, and more 'philosophical' religions, like Stoicism and Neoplatonism, have vastly differing ideas of what religion is, than what is normally considered.
2. Even if Naik is right about the Bible, he's horribly wrong about Hinduism. If he's wrong about one thing, why trust him in another?

 

[Riverwolf]

I don't think you were able to convince him

Why do not you debate with him

All his debating will be broadcast in tv

Screw that, I'm an introvert. Rather, I'll debate those who try to follow his jokes to help further discredit him to lurkers.

We watch and every one do

If he is layer people will notice

Most people were not to beat him

Because of his strong idea

HA! More likely because the show he's on deliberately picks out people who don't know how to debate.

Here is prove that this discoveries is true

Newspaper

Man saying it is true from the same country

In Arabic if u understand

Ancient people were very tall


????? ?????? : ????? ??? ???

'Fraid I can't read Arabic.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

^_^ In fairness, I was a Hindu for some time, and came across Naik's lies quite often.

Yeah, I wasn't really trying to say anything about you, but about Thoughts, who kind of sounds like a broken record. I know you practiced Hinduism at one time, and it's always funny to hear people like Naik, and his supporters, parrot their views about how Hinduism predicted the coming of Mohammed, even though this is clearly not the case.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yeah, I wasn't really trying to say anything about you, but about Thoughts, who kind of sounds like a broken record. I know you practiced Hinduism at one time, and it's always funny to hear people like Naik, and his supporters, parrot their views about how Hinduism predicted the coming of Mohammed, even though this is clearly not the case.

Indeed. And even if it did predict the coming of Mohammed, the verse in question doesn't exactly paint the guy in the most flattering of lights. ^_^

 

[Poeticus]

Indeed. And even if it did predict the coming of Mohammed, the verse in question doesn't exactly paint the guy in the most flattering of lights. ^_^

Glad to know you got something out of my early posts! Spread 'da word!

 

[Thoughts]

That's two religions: Christianity and Islam.

Two religions. Two out of hundreds.



Honestly, your posts are getting too long and difficult to read. I know there's contradictions in the Bible, but you haven't shown me any of the actual ones, just verses taken out of context. I can do that with the Qur'an, too (haven't had my caffeine, yet, so I won't bother for now.)

Furthermore, the presence of contradictions is pretty unimportant, anyway.

One more post I added the reason is your question

I am talkin about concept

Main concept of all religion is same

Paradise in slam ve Jews ve bible... etc is same




Not only he'll but meaning of god

I think you are trying to mislead us


You said there is contradiction

So christianti is fake and what mentioned about prophet in quran is truth

That is the point you got it

So there is contraduction

I gave you many example but you mislead us by asking many questions

Contraduction mean saying opposite thing

Drink wine then don't drink wine

They take bible stories as rule of life

Why they allow drinking wine! There is story for jesus About wine

So these stories like order

 

[Thoughts]

A few things.
1. Not all religions have similar concepts. Buddhism, Taoism, certain forms of Hinduism, and more 'philosophical' religions, like Stoicism and Neoplatonism, have vastly differing ideas of what religion is, than what is normally considered.
2. Even if Naik is right about the Bible, he's horribly wrong about Hinduism. If he's wrong about one thing, why trust him in another?

It dependent on his speech

I think Jews and christianti 10 religion

But others zero percent

This is my point of view

Forexample,
I don't think cow deserved to be worshipped
Or any animal

These are Animals can't protect their self
They don't have ability to think so we are better than those animal

Why we have to worship something lower than us and can't neither benefit us or harm

So I didn't listen to zakir debating around other religions

 

[Riverwolf]

One more post I added the reason is your question

I am talkin about concept

Main concept of all religion is same

Paradise in slam ve Jews ve bible... etc is same

No, we don't have that. Hundreds of religions don't have paradise or hell.

In my view, both the slain Navy Seals who raided Bin Laden's hideout as well as his slain men are eating, drinking, and fighting in Valhalla.

Not only he'll but meaning of god

Virtually all religions are in disagreement on that.

You said there is contradiction

So christianti is fake and what mentioned about prophet in quran is truth

That is the point you got it

No. Just because there are contradictions doesn't mean Christianity is fake AND that the Qur'an is truth.

There's other options. Hundreds of other options.

So there is contraduction

I gave you many example but you mislead us by asking many questions

Contraduction mean saying opposite thing

Drink wine then don't drink wine

They take bible stories as rule of life

Why they allow drinking wine! There is story for jesus About wine

So these stories like order

I've not seen any contradictions regarding wine. Rather, most of the time it's okay to drink wine, but not to excess, and for many specific rituals, it's forbidden.

The actual contradictions are in regards to other matters. Go read the Bible yourself and see if you can find them. I'll even give you a hint: there's one right there at the beginning (and it has nothing to do with wine.)

 

[Riverwolf]

Forexample,
I don't think cow deserved to be worshipped
Or any animal

Who says cows deserve to be worshiped?

 

[Thoughts]

Who says cows deserve to be worshiped?

There are some Indian don't kill cows and say it is god

 

[Thoughts]

Screw that, I'm an introvert. Rather, I'll debate those who try to follow his jokes to help further discredit him to lurkers.



HA! More likely because the show he's on deliberately picks out people who don't know how to debate.



'Fraid I can't read Arabic.

He doesn't pick people but people stand in line so they take place to answer
It is your opinion and not fact

He did debate with church man

He answers all questions while church man didn't and most of his answers were not real

Me too I am afraid of picture that you post below your nickname


Really his answer convincing

 

[Riverwolf]

There are some Indian don't kill cows and say it is god

False.

Just because the cow is a sacred animal in Hinduism doesn't mean it's considered a god.

 

[Riverwolf]

He doesn't pick people but people stand in line so they take place to answer
It is your opinion and not fact

He did debate with church man

He answers all questions while church man didn't and most of his answers were not real

Me too I am afraid of picture that you post below your nickname


Really his answer convincing

A convincing answer doesn't necessarily mean a right answer. It just means he has charisma.

You can't trust anything you see on TV.

 

[Thoughts]

A convincing answer doesn't necessarily mean a right answer. It just means he has charisma.

You can't trust anything you see on TV.

I know they have their reason for believing such thing

I think and I believe that their religion is not true just like christianity

Who have charisma

Animal don't have mind to have chArisma

Charisma doesn't relate to such thing

If you think about worshipping as idea it look stuipid

Just like pre Islam who worshipped rock

They also have their own reason but it doesn't mean that they are right

 

[Riverwolf]

I know they have their reason for believing such thing

I think and I believe that their religion is not true just like christianity

Who have charisma

Animal don't have mind to have chArisma

Charisma doesn't relate to such thing

If you think about worshipping as idea it look stuipid

Just like pre Islam who worshipped rock

They also have their own reason but it doesn't mean that they are right

I meant that Naik has charisma. And to an outsider, Islam's ideas are just as ludicrous as other religions'.

 

[Thoughts]

I meant that Naik has charisma. And to an outsider, Islam's ideas are just as ludicrous as other religions'.

He has both chrisma and saying truth
His speech wasn't nonsense

In fact contradiction of bible mentioned in quran lol

Because if there is contradiction in bible so quran is truth
Because same prophet was mentioned but with different stories

In christian prophet Lut slept with his daughter

In islam Lut people were punished

Prophet are our model
Model doesn't do bad things

In christian if prophet did wrong thing he will be punished
like Adam who got out of paradise because. He disobeyed god

But we see that Lut doing sin but he was not punished

So story is not true

If there is new christianti

It sign that islam is last massanger

If talk to ahmad deedat he will. Show you
Lines from bible was found name of prophet
Mohammad but then they change it just like the rest of bible

 

[Riverwolf]

In fact contradiction of bible mentioned in quran lol

Because if there is contradiction in bible so quran is truth
Because same prophet was mentioned but with different stories

Wrong. Learn your logic.

Just because the Bible may be false doesn't mean the Qur'an is true. Perhaps both are false.