Shadow Wolf
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That doesn't make any sense. Atheism has been around for thousands of years at least, upheld by the young and old alike.
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With 4100 Americans dead in one day, why did God think viruses were a good idea?
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ecco
Veteran Member
That's really funny coming from someone who believes a magic entity will give him eternal life. That's the ultimate fantasyland.
If your all-creator God didn't make cancer, no one would have to find a cure for it. That has nothing to do with laziness. That has to do with compassion.
Lazy humans are the ones who have said "GodDidIt" and continue to rely on words written 3000 years ago by relatively ignorant people. Lazy, ignorant humans are the ones who refuse to wear masks because they believe that God will protect them. And if he doesn't, well, there is always the promise of a better, eternal life.
ecco
Veteran Member
Yeah. The kind of suffering that man inflicts on himself is the result and is indicative of a natural world that has no compassionate entity in the sky to assist him.
You believe there is a God. Perhaps you could show how this world would be different if, as I believe, there is no God.
ecco
Veteran Member
That sounds like nonsense. Perhaps you could offer some evidence to support your assertion.
We quiver every time some group tries to enact new pro-religious laws and edicts like teaching Creationism.
We quiver every time we hear a Senator disparage Global Warming because his religious indoctrination made him averse to science when he was seven.
Colt
Well-Known Member
This world wouldn't exist without your heavenly Father.
ecco
Veteran Member
That is your unsubstantiated opinion.
I guess your intent in posting that comment was to duck and dodge the issues we were discussing. Like, why does your merciful God inflict babies with cancer? Your actions are understandable.
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
It's yet another proof, I've ascertained from all I see, that God is a deist God. He has nothing to do with it. He just lets nature take its course, doesn't lift a finger to help and the bodies pile up.
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
I think a more apt phrase for COVID would be, "For when I am weak, I am dead."I thought my post was relevant to the question.
2 Corinthians 12:7-10
New International Version
For when I am weak, then I am strong.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
The OP reminds me of a tale told by an Auschwitz survivor in The World at War video series from 1974.
A rabbi in one of the death camps looked up into heaven and cried out 'God, look what they are doing to your people. Why won't you stop it.' He paused for a moment then, in a moment of revelation he said, 'There is no God.'
He was later a martyr, burned up in the ovens.
A rabbi in one of the death camps looked up into heaven and cried out 'God, look what they are doing to your people. Why won't you stop it.' He paused for a moment then, in a moment of revelation he said, 'There is no God.'
He was later a martyr, burned up in the ovens.
To show them how truly "free" they are not to wear masks
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Death by virus is just one of many, many ways to die.
I think your real question is why does God allow death?
The answer is that by having life continually regenerate through birth and death it is constantly changing and vibrant -- it does not stagnate. Think how the world would be if there was no new life, no babies, no children, no first kisses, no weddings. Even the flowers are only here because they help plants procreate. if there were no death, there would be no flowers.
The second this is that death gives meaning to life. The things we do matter to us only because we have a limited time to do them. We have to make choices-- I can be a doctor or a lawyer, but not both, or whatever. Because one mortal lifetime is too short to be both a doctor and a lawyer. The things we say matter, because the person we say them to won't always be here,and when they are gone, we won't have the opportunity to say we are sorry. I hope this is making sense to you all.
See I think about this stuff. Maybe I'm just a nerd. But this is the sort of stuff that I lay in bed late at night and think about. And I've concluded that I really don't want a world with no death.
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
There likely is a Higher Intelligence (call it God if you must) because that is the only logical way to explain the impossible odds of diversity and complexity we see in this world and the universe. But this intelligence is deist, IMHO. It doesn't interact with us in any way. That's why prayers are never answered and nothing supernatural has ever been observed.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
We had a thread very recently about this misuse of the world logical. "Makes sense to me" doesn't mean "logical."
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
Well, I agree with that. But scientists still have not been able to discover what exactly kick-started life. Even though they keep promising us one day they will.
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
And you base this on what exactly, cOLTER besides the Bible? Or are we back to blind faith again?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Yes, but that doesn't make it that a creator is the only logical explanation. It actually, basically has all the same issues a materialist approach has, which is where does anything--inuding god--ultimately come from. God explanations cannot answer this question no more completely than those who say it's all natural.
Colt
Well-Known Member
It’s based on revelation. There are other revelations besides the Bible.
ppp
Well-Known Member
Complexity, huh? Is your version of a god more or less complex than the universe?
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
So are these revelations personal to you, or to someone else who communicates them to you or from non-canonical scriptures?
Colt
Well-Known Member
The Urantia Book revelation of 1955 gives us much more information about God, creation and the entire life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. I’ve been a student of the UB for much of my life.
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