Why ************ it?

[sojourner]

Going by god having the power it does make sense. Everyone in the bible in OT that god forgave were always huge sinners. What made them forgiven was his say so and that is all that's needed. God is under no obligation to forgive anyone and can accept whatever type of person he wants as seen in the OT. Jesus just made it a hell of lot easier to be forgiven which the OT said would happen to the gentiles via someone from the line of Jacob. I'm under the impression that the god of the bible can do whatever he wants and it doesn't have to be done a certain way just cause your theology says so.

No, but the theology ought to reflect an historically honest perspective.

 

[idav]

But that's not what the Genesis story says, is it! It says that they would become like God -- and God is not evil.

Again, the hymn doesn't say "reflection," does it! It says "form."

No it says like us! Plural. And God is not evil only because he's the one making the rules.

Yes form, I interpret it differently. I've gone through the bible and do not believe jesus to be The God. No spinning of the scripture can reconcile the mess of the trinity. If anything WE are part of the trinity making us god-like, sons of god or whatever you want to call it. Not to mention all the sons of god mentioned in the OT.

 

[idav]

No, but the theology ought to reflect an historically honest perspective.

What was it that I missed exactly?

 

[Erebus]

If you say that you're Christian and you believe in God and Jesus but you don't believe in some of the bible, say Noah's Flood, or alot of the tenets, what percentage are you Christian? Why not, if you're christian or any Religion that has a popular dogma, don't you believe in it fully, why not dive head first and totally commit to it? At what point does one stop being a Christian? What's the minimum requirement?

Well it's pretty simple actually. You see the bare minimum required is a contract written in your own blood and locked in a box of cat's bones. Then you take the contract to a crossroads and... Actually I think I'm getting mixed up.

 

[sojourner]

What was it that I missed exactly?

well, for starters, how about:

God is not evil only because he's the one making the rules.

I don't read that anywhere in the Bible, nor is it included in any of the remaining Tradition of either Judaism or Xy.
:areyoucra

 

[sojourner]

No it says like us! Plural. And God is not evil only because he's the one making the rules.

Yes form, I interpret it differently. I've gone through the bible and do not believe jesus to be The God. No spinning of the scripture can reconcile the mess of the trinity. If anything WE are part of the trinity making us god-like, sons of god or whatever you want to call it. Not to mention all the sons of god mentioned in the OT.

Whatever, man.

 

[idav]

well, for starters, how about:

I don't read that anywhere in the Bible, nor is it included in any of the remaining Tradition of either Judaism or Xy.
:areyoucra

It's called being above the law because your the rule maker. Just using logic. It's good to be king. God is allowed to murder even though it goes against his commandments is the most popular example to illustrate this.

 

[Engyo]

It's called being above the law because your the rule maker. Just using logic. It's good to be king. God is allowed to murder even though it goes against his commandments is the most popular example to illustrate this.

Power shared is power lost, no?

 

[sojourner]

It's called being above the law because your the rule maker. Just using logic. It's good to be king. God is allowed to murder even though it goes against his commandments is the most popular example to illustrate this.

Again, I don't read that in any of the Tradition.

 

[idav]

Power shared is power lost, no?

The power isn't lost as long as you have ultimate say otherwise conflict will arise. To powers may have different wills.

 

[idav]

Again, I don't read that in any of the Tradition.

Ok well what does tradition say about god being able to commit genocide but we aren't able to kill unless for food or sacrifice. The answer is in genesis with the flood. Clearly god felt he had every right to destroy what he created based on that story. Then quickly turned around and told us not to shed the blood of humans cause we are in gods image found in Genesis 9:6 right after god destroyed most everything on the earth. You don't see any contradiction here?

 

[sojourner]

Ok well what does tradition say about god being able to commit genocide but we aren't able to kill unless for food or sacrifice. The answer is in genesis with the flood. Clearly god felt he had every right to destroy what he created based on that story. Then quickly turned around and told us not to shed the blood of humans cause we are in gods image found in Genesis 9:6 right after god destroyed most everything on the earth. You don't see any contradiction here?

Not if you exegete the texts with a proper hermeneutic...

 

[Reverend Rick]

I believe the issue here is trying to understand God the father is a jealous, vengeful God.

That does not sound much like Jesus now does it?