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Well, it isn't associated with those things to me.Why is the word heathen associated with laziness, filthiness, Demons, lack of self-discipline, human sacrifice, lack of virtue, immoral Passions, sexual depravity, drunkeness, and other forms of immorality, immaturity, and irresponsible living?
Christians who demonized everything that wasn't them, up to an including putting horns of Vikings even though that simply never happened. But, gotta make those heathens look more like the devil, because apparently widespread looting, pillaging, plundering, murdering, and raping wasn't bad enough.Why is the word heathen associated with laziness, filthiness, Demons, lack of self-discipline, human sacrifice, lack of virtue, immoral Passions, sexual depravity, drunkeness, and other forms of immorality, immaturity, and irresponsible living?
Not sure what crowd you hang out with but heathen has always been an ugly word as a general rule in my experienceWell, it isn't associated with those things to me.
Perhaps you're hanging out with the wrong crowd? We didn't just meet.
Tom
If my understanding is correct (I haven't actually researched it as a point but come across in researching other things) heathen as a bad word is rooted in history as Europe was becoming Christianized.Well, it isn't associated with those things to me.
Perhaps you're hanging out with the wrong crowd? We didn't just meet.
Tom
Like I said.I've even heard abortion and gay acts described as "heathen" practices and liberals are "heathens" and our culture is "heathen culture of death" lol
Why is the word heathen associated with laziness, filthiness, Demons, lack of self-discipline, human sacrifice, lack of virtue, immoral Passions, sexual depravity, drunkeness, and other forms of immorality, immaturity, and irresponsible living?
Yes I know...the Bible implies that heathans are Idolators but I'm not sure why so much ugly reputation is attached to polytheistic faiths.
Kinda gross if you ask me
Because heathens were that way back in the day. They were drunken, depraved people who were spiritually dark. They did human sacrifices, sexual slavery etc. all common enough. Thought it was best to be a warrior and die fighting for pride, loot etc. Christianity made people better compared to what they were in Europe.Why is the word heathen associated with laziness, filthiness, Demons, lack of self-discipline, human sacrifice, lack of virtue, immoral Passions, sexual depravity, drunkeness, and other forms of immorality, immaturity, and irresponsible living?
Because heathens were that way back in the day. They were drunken, depraved people who were spiritually dark. They did human sacrifices, sexual slavery etc. all common enough. Thought it was best to be a warrior and die fighting for pride, loot etc. Christianity made people better compared to what they were in Europe.
That's just using the word as a synonym of "foreign" or "other."I've even heard abortion and gay acts described as "heathen" practices and liberals are "heathens" and our culture is "heathen culture of death" lol
Christianity didn't do away with that. Fighting and dying for Christ being glorious and desirable enough to have you absolved of your sins, slavery did end for several centuries later, all Christianity really did was idolize and promote suffering, make private affairs the business of the church, and horribly repress women. My pagan and heathen ancestors, for example, had female priests and warriors. Christianity is still struggling with the idea of women not having to be inherently submissive to men.They did human sacrifices, sexual slavery etc. all common enough. Thought it was best to be a warrior and die fighting for pride, loot etc. Christianity made people better compared to what they were in Europe.
Why is the word heathen associated with laziness, filthiness, Demons, lack of self-discipline, human sacrifice, lack of virtue, immoral Passions, sexual depravity, drunkeness, and other forms of immorality, immaturity, and irresponsible living?
Why is the word heathen associated with laziness, filthiness, Demons, lack of self-discipline, human sacrifice, lack of virtue, immoral Passions, sexual depravity, drunkeness, and other forms of immorality, immaturity, and irresponsible living?
I enjoy medieval history. I don't think I've read that one. But the time period interests me. I've "read" Life of King Alfred(more like listened to it) ...Well, I really think they were all kind of in the same bin. I don't know what history books you've read, but I actually did read the ecclesiastical history of the english people by bede. And in that book, forces (are they heathen or christian?) invading the isle of wight seem to ritually sacrifice a pagan king's sons after baptizing them, (book IV chapter XVI) a woman is grateful that a tumor is absolving her sin where she used to wear jewlery, (b. IV c XIX) and in various places he discusses the lifestyle of anchorites, a lifestyle which many modern people might deem as being psychologically brutal. I wonder at a story he gives about St. Cuthbert living in a 'narrow dwelling' alone on an island for many years, wherein he mentions several times something about a vague mound that grows around him over the course of that time. A mound of what?
But for comparison to the Ibn Fadlan story, read this christian passage about queen Ethelthryth from book IV chapter XIX:
"It is said that when she was sore troubled with the aforesaid tumour and pain in her jaw and neck, she took great pleasure in that sort of sickness, and was wont to say, "I know of a surety that I deservedly bear the weight of my trouble on my neck, for I remember that, when I was a young maiden, I bore on it the needless weight of necklaces; and therefore I believe the Divine goodness would have me endure the pain in my neck, that so I may be absolved from the guilt of my needless levity, having now, instead of gold and pearls, the fiery heat of a tumour rising on my neck."
That's just as spiritually austere as the viking funeral, surely. In both cases, the religions apparently argue that human death is going toward atonement. Arguably, the christian women might suffer more as the tumor chokes her off. In both cases however, we might argue for a mindset typical of the dark ages, save only that christianity was allowed to evolve with history and perhaps eventually allow you to make moral claims with it as a totem