So then you are part of a mass perception. Only able to see what you chose, and not what is given by nature.
I listen to the voice of experience. In this case it is my own experience.
Then how do you comprehend yourself? Yourself is different from scripture, you of all people should know this Danmac. For I know your strong will, yet your purpose is lost to frailty.
The Bible can be put to the test.
I am sorry you made the statement to Autodidact, "God gives his children the kingdom of heaven.
Lu 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Sorry I wont see you there."
I must of misinterpreted what you meant by "sorry I won't see you there." That sounds like condemning to me.
It was not sarcasm. Auto chooses to reject heaven, I do not condemn her. I am not God. I can only convey what He says.
But who are you to say that? You can forgive someone for their wrong, but still deny them of their friendship with you.
I agree totally. And I do. I require nothing to forgive someone. God requires a sacrifice.
Ah, but you see the mind in which your creations are expressed do deem you worthy of 'divine spiritual' status. For your faith withers with time, but your expressed creations will always be visible to the generations that are.
My faith has only grown over time.
What exactly is the pardon that Jesus offers though? Could you not give yourself a better deal?
A guilty man has nothing to offer the judge. Therefore I can give myself nothing. Jesus paid the penalty for my crimes against God.
Ok, well first of all, I do see life, for I am alive. What is this wrath you speak of? How can one speak of a truth that no one has witnessed? Not even you knows death. We all know of it, but we do not know it. No life can ever be everlasting, since life is the absence of nothing.
I trust that the Bible is true, therefore I believe there will be wrath.
Think of Life and Nothingness as two sides of a coin like your God and Satan. One could not exist without the other. Because if nothing existed then our perceptions of nothing would not exist and it would just be.
True, God is love. There can be no love unless there is hate. Therefore satan is necessary.
Take the presence of now for example. No God is needed to give morality to man, as morality and carnal instinct are just given words to our natural way of life.
God is needed to give love, not morality. On the other hand, it is his laws that create the model.
Man knows that man must not destroy each other. Yet they do, for the simple sake of survival. For the role of dominance and vengeance plays a key role in survival.
Man is self centered by nature. That is why we need God. So that we can become selfless.
If a man is determined on killing your family, would you not stop him? Sometimes a death is needed in order to save a few lifes. I believe you know this Danmac.
I agree
John 11:48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.
49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
No shape nor shadow seeks a path, they just simply exist.
They mimic the author.
Why can't Satan be God? The names differ, their purpose does not. Why can't up be down, when in fact if your are upside down, up is rightside up? Do you not see?
Should hate have dominion over love?
Just like Harry Potter, or the Lord of the Rings. You can't deny them of their existence, because they do in fact exist. Be it so in a book, but the bible is no different.
The Bible was never intended as fiction.
Is this life not part of the so called 'eternity'? Even so, God does not offer salvation in the life we have no choice to exist in. Folly.
This is a trial run. Like Brewster's millions.
It was my understanding that many Catholics and Christians fear the being of God and not his absence. How could his absence be darkness, if Lucifer was mocked and desicrated. All beings see light, as it shines through the eyes! If no light existed no man could not see...metaphorically speaking the Blind shall lead the Blind.
Darkness does not exist. Darkness is the absence of light.
What makes the Darkness so bad, if you use the light to your advantage, instead of being blinded by it.
Darkness impedes.
Hmm...I see. As some people find 'God' in times of crisis, some find opposition, who seems to me at least a more worthy and beneficial advesary to leading a gratifying life.
Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
If it is human nature to reject God, then it should be self evident to you, that it is human nature to make up a God. As it is human nature to lust, hold honor, be gluttonous, be lazy, seek vengeance and protection, admire one's status, and with hold ones self.
Human nature doesn't want a God. Why would it make one up. You are being influenced by human nature. Do you want to make a God up?
For mercy is not truth, your sins are next to mine.
My sins are nailed to a cross.
If it is the will of God for us to be, then it should be clear to you that it is the will of God for us to not be.
But we are
The very status of the Church should be clear to you that even the strongest willed believers still succumb to their hipocrisy.
Human nature corrupts many churches. Hence hypocrisy.
You can pray and pray to God for your desire, which you seem to have ignorantly written. But praying itself is the expression of ones desire, which God does forsake you.
We must pray God's desire if we are to be heard.
Praying for a bottle of soda does you no good, unless you get up off your arse and get it yourself. But then again, it wasn't God that got you that bottle of soda, it was you.
We may be able to get a bottle of soda, but can you cure cancer?
And sure, God does 'hear' that of which you pray to him, but this is only so because you believe that he does. Acknowledge that we are able to have conversations with ourselves within our own conscience.
Sure we can. But God designed the conscience.
It is my perception and you and I both know that we differ greatly from each other. But only if you chose to see such a thing.
We differ on what we believe. We believe differently because someone was able to persuade us that what they were teaching was truth. Let me ask you this. How do you know that blue is really blue. You believe blue is blue because a trusted authority figure told you it was blue. You never questioned it, and as a result you will argue that blue is really blue. You did no color research before making your decision, you just believed what you were taught. Personal preference seasons every teachers lesson, and as a result many are taught to believe lies.
As I see, that your mind has it's own way of twisting and manipulating things, as all beings do. You and I are the same, for our blood does flow as one.
I am not here to deceive. I am here to challenge other peoples beliefs. My beliefs are challenged as well, and I do not ignore it when they are, I look deeper into what they are saying and what I believe.
It is stated in the Satanic bible, the best way to manipulate and control a mass is with confusing and unclear doctrines.
Hide in plain sight
If the writers of the Bible intended to convey 'particular things' (which you never really made clear what those things are) then we would already know what those things are. But you yourself already stated, "it is up to us to find exactly what that is."
The bible is a riddle. It is up to us to unlock the mystery.
If you ask me the very writer of the Christian Bible is Satanic. You can chose not to see this, but it is clear that the Church is wealthier than you, and has you within it's grasp.
Then do you agree that satan exists.
Whatever insidious claims you have about the Church doesn't really matter. For they claim the same as you.
It is the Bible that I follow. Not a church.
Satan is, what you see. He is the very essence of your reason, simply because you give absence a label and a master.
satan is indeed real. IMO
Danmac, a Satanist knows when he sees another brother...it is just the birth that you claim that separates fantasy from reality.
God did kill Satan, then he became it.
satan is alive and well.
