Why did God create homosexuality?

[sojourner]

It is not my belief that they are born this way, and I don't really like the terminology "homosexual" or "heterosexual" at all for various reasons. So really I just would say, as my answer to the title question, "He didn't."

Your belief and your dislike have no bearing on what really “is.”

 

[sojourner]

God commands everyone, including homosexuals, to control their sexual impulses and live moral lives. Yes, a homosexual would need to live a celibate life or choose to marry the opposite sex. You would need to work that out with him as to which one you choose. Yes, God expects us to sacrifice, overcome, and give up whatever is in our physical natures that is keeping us from following his teachings.

But these are cultural, not moral imperatives in the Bible. It’s no more immoral for homosexuals to engage in loving, consensual same-sex relations than it is for a non-Jew to eat pork.

 

[sojourner]

God does give a partial reason for why he don't want it, as the verse state it is considered an abomination, but also it makes people "unclean". Apparently those before the Jews did it and God doesn't like that.

Leviticus 20:13
13 - If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Leviticus 18:22-30
22 - You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
23 - And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.
24 - “Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean,
25 - and the land became unclean, so that I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.
26 - But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you
27 - (for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean),
28 - lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you.
29 - For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people.
30 - So keep my charge never to practice any of these abominable customs that were practiced before you, and never to make yourselves unclean by them: I am the LORD your God.”

The interesting things is that God changed his view on how this should be punished in just a couple of pages, slightly confusing . First they should just be cut off from their people, two pages later they shall be put to death.

Why God would allow homosexuality's to exist in the first place is a good question. There doesn't seem to be any beneficial reasons for it to exists, just as there doesn't seem to be any downside to it either.

From what I can see from some of the replies you have gotten, some talk about free will, you yourself mention sacrifice, I have heard other explanations that it is a test, which I guess is sort of like what you mean by sacrificing as well? But personally I don't think any of these explanations make any sense.

In regards to free will, I don't see what this has to do with it at all. And even if it were the case, God ought to let people act on it as they please, otherwise what is the point for free will, if you should get killed for it and God explicitly say that it is their own fault. Which could be another way of saying that God is not going to look at this lightly.

Sacrificing/test as you mentioned, I don't buy either, at least not if we are talking about a just God, why is it that certain people should have to sacrifice in regards to this, when others doesn't have to? Also this idea falls apart I think, the moment we look at the animal kingdom. Because a lot of other species do homosexual acts as well, but I think it is a bit of a longshot trying to justify that God is also testing or demanding sacrifice from these animals, who clearly doesn't seem to care at all. So why would God allow or make it possible for animals to be homosexuals', that doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

Personally I think this is linked to the role of man and women. The bible puts men above women and as the head of the family, basically being able to do what they want. Like selling their daughters etc. so for men to take the "role" of a women, I think would have been seen as a step down the ladder in regards to this hierarchy. At least I think that is the most obvious explanation, when taking into account the time, history and how the bible in general speak about the different genders.

Interesting that not one of these verses mentions homosexuality.

 

[sojourner]

I was not referring to sexual attraction as a whole but deficiencies in it. Yes sexual attraction exists.

I did not say that desires can't be the product of decisions, they can be, it's just they don't have to be. They can come from a variety of sources. They can come from us (like my innate desire to avoid death comes from within and pushes me to avoid certain things), the world (like when you see someone with something and then you want it, that came from without), God (such as the desire for Him), demons (such as temptations to our corrupt nature), and so on (or maybe that really is all).

The mere presence of a desire is not a fault or responsibility, only knowing choices are faults or responsibilities in a moral sense.

Nope. That’s too easy an “out” for prejudiced attitudes. There is nowhere written in Bible or medical journal that homosexuality is some “deficient” form of sexuality.

 

[David Weaver]

You actually have it backwards. If you read and understand the Gospels you would know that the names of the supposed authors were added after the fact. They were named in the second century. Do you need evidence of that? I can provide you sources. What you actually need to do is to try to prove that they were written by the people whose names are on them. You will not be able to make a convincing argument.

This burden of proof argument is getting tired. Burden of proof lies with anyone who is making an assertion. My Bible names authors and doesn't say anything about them being anonymous at any point in time. I'm not stating that the possibility doesn't exist (which is how I feel you are taking what I say.) What I am saying is that without seeing the evidence I'm not willing to assume they were

 

[sojourner]

I didn't mention choice, I didn't say I was heterosexual.

Then what is sexual preference, if not a choice?

 

[sojourner]

Well any corruption or death or evil does not come from God, for as I quoted "God did not make death." So anything that is that did not come from Him (according to me). Rational beings have the free will to move into corruption, basically depreciating their own existence. That is the ultimate source of all that.

You still haven’t shown that homosexuality is “corrupt.” Nor can you.

 

[sojourner]

Which as I said earlier, is nothing but disorder, meaning that fundamentally sexual attraction is good, but this expression of it is broken. Ultimately as I said coming through the will of someone ("death comes through sin" yet sin is a knowing choice), even if not that particular person.

You haven’t shown that homosexuality is “broken” in any way.

 

[sojourner]

Jehovah God created humans to engage in sex only within the arrangement of marriage between a male and a female. (Genesis 1:27-28; Leviticus 18:22; Proverbs 5:18-19)

Genesis never mentions marriage, or an arrangement of marriage.
Leviticus never mentions marriage, or an arrangement of marriage.
Proverbs never mentions marriage, and “wife” is a vague term.

The Bible condemns sexual activity that is not between a husband and wife, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual conduct. (1 Corinthians 6:18)

It mentions “fornication.” It has nothing to do with homosexuality. What about people in same-sex marriages?

The Bible doesn’t comment directly on the biology of homosexual desires, though it acknowledges that because of sin, we are all born with a tendency to go against what God commands. (Romans 7:21-25) Rather than focus on the cause of homosexual desires, however, the Bible prohibits homosexual acts.

Why does it prohibit that? Which kinds of homosexual acts are prohibited? Does the Bible refer to mutual, loving, and consensual acts? Or acts of violence? Or do the writers simply assume that homosexual acts cannot be mutual, loving, and consensual?

The Bible says: “Don’t be controlled by your body. Kill every desire for the wrong kind of sex.” (Colossians 3:5)

It doesn’t say that.

 

[sojourner]

This burden of proof argument is getting tired. Burden of proof lies with anyone who is making an assertion. My Bible names authors and doesn't say anything about them being anonymous at any point in time. I'm not stating that the possibility doesn't exist (which is how I feel you are taking what I say.) What I am saying is that without seeing the evidence I'm not willing to assume they were

The names your Bible gives are editorial additions — not the texts themselves.

 

[sojourner]

No. He permitted persons of their own will to move towards the nothingness out of which they were made and reject Him, and when He permits this (or when He "pulls back" to use an expression, for it is simultaneous), that is when they do this, what you see is them falling apart. Their bodies, their minds, their wills, them as a whole. This is why I said "disordered desire" as in "out of order." Someone may not be the origin of their thoughts or desires though, it may "pass through them" for the whole world is in corruption and is "falling apart at the seams" right now.

We don’t believe the world was created ex nihilo. Rather, the world came out of God.

 

[sojourner]

I am asking for you to show me how this works not just tell me how it supposedly works, like do you have a book or an article that proves this or something?

Do you have a book or an article that proves your opinions?

 

[sojourner]

No, I said very clearly that it comes through the will. Perhaps saying it again will make it clearer: death (let that be a stand-in for all corruption, evil, suffering, etc) comes into the world when a person departs from God. Now the state of human nature (and nature at large) is one of "loss," that it is losing itself and falling apart, do not think of this as a positive existence but something just breaking down because it tends to that now. This, another person willing this, or the person with said desire can be the cause of it. This is how not all thoughts and desires are your own, but they also can be at times (depending on what you do). It is not an influence on it's own because it's not something with a will, it is more a state of things and something persons go towards.

I fail to see what exactly was not gotten, I may need to quote someone better saying the same thing as my communication abilities are not the best.

You’ll have to show that the world is on a “state of loss.” AFAIK, Genesis says that creation is “very good.” Doesn’t sound lossy to me.

 

[sojourner]

Homosexuality is perverse and subversive, irrespective of the sentiments or audacity of those who practice it.

Prove that this is so. (Hint: you’ll have to swim against medical science armed with only Biblical misapprehension in order to do so.)

 

[sojourner]

That's true, but, firstly, within heterosexuality comes many vices also - one must control their heterosexual desires as much as any other misguided or injudicious behaviour.. Secondly, some people are born with intrinsic deformities or aberrations, we don't consider these to be normal and healthy, we try to rehabilitate either entirely or to some degree, where applicable.
The desire for relationships may be intrinsic, but many have acquired an inordinate affection towards their partners, or even their pets, displaying the fact that there is an extremely fine line as to what is normal and healthy, and as to what is abnormal.

You do understand that homosexuals aren’t attracted heterosexually.
What aberrations are present in some homosexual people that aren’t also present in some heterosexual people?

 

[sojourner]

We all have issues, including myself. I'm just as misguided and perverted as anyone else - I just am, first of all, aware of that fact, and secondly, willing to admit it.

Bullying and systemic violence are not brushed off as “issues.”

 

[Lain]

You’ll have to show that the world is on a “state of loss.” AFAIK, Genesis says that creation is “very good.” Doesn’t sound lossy to me.

You replied quite a lot to me, and I appreciate it, God bless you. I forgot I even had a Creation/Fall discussion in this thread.

Anyway, the world was made very good and all things which exist are still intrinsically good. When free beings depart from God they introduce death into the world, and so all creation has Fallen from this state (while being intrinsically good), such is my opinion. The fact that anything dies is proof of this state. All things are very good still though.

 

[sojourner]

Sorry The Hammer, I'm not aware of your gender but whatever the case may be, you will build much stronger character and soundness of mind if you abide by the rules of biological nature, and those of relationships.
Just the fact that you consider mutual consent to be the guideline for moral integrity, reveals an oblivion to the harmful nature of certain acts, desires and intents.
Two people who agree to beat each other up, which I've seen more than once, does not constitute sound or practical behaviour. People who are in accord to have open relationships, or who are swingers, porn stars, and so on, is not the parameter that determines inconsequential behaviour.

The only overriding “rule” of relationships I’m aware of is laid out by Jesus: Love. Two people who love each other and are committed to each other are certainly within their moral bounds when they express that love physically — no matter their sex.

 

[sojourner]

Not interested, ...i am aware of the diversity of opinion on the matter, and I have formulated mine through both empirical evidence and fundamental reasons..

Your empirical evidence is at odds with both medical science snd Biblical exegesis. Better take a closer scrutiny of your “evidence.”

 

[savagewind]

The Bible states that if a man lies with another man they should both be stoned to death. It's my belief that homosexuals are born that way and have no choice over who they're attracted to just like a heterosexual. If this is true why would God create homosexuals when he seems so opposed to their nature? I believe in the God of the Old Testament and believe that he is righteous but I'm confused by this. Did God create homosexuals purely to destroy them or is there something else going on? Does he want a homosexual man to be celibate or to go against his nature and procreate with a woman? Is God offering him the chance to make a huge sacrifice to the highest by denying himself? What are your thoughts?

I think that God did not create homosexuals. Sex did it.

The DNA of the man and the woman plus Society is to blame if in case there is something to blame.

Homosexuals are in fact at work protecting everyone else against the overpopulation of the planet.

I think that I know for a fact that God does not create anything that is a sin to the written word of God. It would be confusing and isn't that Babylon?