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WHY are still muslıms sleeping?

frbnsn

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Who knows if you read what I said or understood it.
But, again,you guys keep your oil.
Dont sell any. Send all foreign workers home.
See how that turns out for you.

Foreign workers are there because
you guys dont know want to work, and do
not know how.
Dear Audie,
not only foreign workers,but as a state, for example USA, there with many soldier and gun.
Not matter foreign workers,but İt is the matter military power and wanting colonization of big countries!
 
There is a longer history that is involved in the Middle East. The tribalism of Islam, Judaism, and by the way Christianity is rooted in a long history including the Crusades and Western colonialism to cut up the Middle East to suit Western interests,. There is long history of the Jews being expelled from their homeland, and than of course moving in to reclaim it. The Middle East has long been a Battle ground for tribal dominance going back to years recorded in the Torah.

I do not approve of the history of the formation of the State of Israel on a militant basis, but it is a fact of life that reflects history that the Jews moved and staked their traditional claim of their homeland, just as the tribal turf war has been taken place for thousands of years.

One thing that has not been brought up and is an elephant in the room, and that is the Islam of Saudi Arabia is among the most radical militant fundamentalist divisions of Islam.

Is there now? The fact is that Jews as such have NEVER been expelled from Palestine. Yes the ancient Judean elites and a section of guess you would call it the middle class were expelled in 582/581 BC- the term Jew did not exist than, it only came into existence centuries later- but the rural masses were never expelled. The Romans contrary to myth never expelled in mass people from Palestine. Also their homeland? Do you honestly believe that Palestine is the ancestral homeland of vast majority of today's Jews? Think for a moment. Around the time of Christ a whole ten per cent of the vast Roman Empire was Jewish, would you have us believe that they all came from Palestine? Why should other people accept Jewish Religious myths that our SO obviously false?

Also over the last 1000 years the Middle East has had a far more peaceful history than Western Europe. The history of your own United States is also incredibly violent.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Is there now? The fact is that Jews as such have NEVER been expelled from Palestine. Yes the ancient Judean elites and a section of guess you would call it the middle class were expelled in 582/581 BC- the term Jew did not exist than, it only came into existence centuries later- but the rural masses were never expelled. The Romans contrary to myth never expelled in mass people from Palestine. Also their homeland? Do you honestly believe that Palestine is the ancestral homeland of vast majority of today's Jews? Think for a moment. Around the time of Christ a whole ten per cent of the vast Roman Empire was Jewish, would you have us believe that they all came from Palestine? Why should other people accept Jewish Religious myths that our SO obviously false?

Also over the last 1000 years the Middle East has had a far more peaceful history than Western Europe. The history of your own United States is also incredibly violent.

I will respond more, but the exile of the Jews at various times in history is not a matter of some or all. It is a fact that the exiles occured. Yes most of the Jews of Europe are descendents of exiled Jews from Palestine at various times in history. Your speculation concerning the numbers exiled in 582/581 is just that speculation. All that can be said is not all the Hebrews were exiled, and likely pastoral Hebrews in the hills of Judah were not exiled.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Why are the western states staring at the oil and natural gas of the Middle East?
Isn't colonialism obvious theft?
Muslims in vain clash with each other, thieves continue to steal!
Shouldn't they be unity against thieves?

Islam is divided by tribalism as was all ancient religions, and these divisions remain in the current sects of Islam.
 
I will respond more, but the exile of the Jews at various times in history is not a matter of some or all. It is a fact that the exiles occured. Yes most of the Jews of Europe are descendents of exiled Jews from Palestine at various times in history. Your speculation concerning the numbers exiled in 582/581 is just that speculation. All that can be said is not all the Hebrews were exiled, and likely pastoral Hebrews in the hills of Judah were not exiled.

The Romans never exiled them, that they did is a historical myth. The idea that even a small majority (or even anything more than a miniscule minority) of European Jews are descended from Palestinians is an impossibility and remember for most of it's history Second Temple Judaism was very into making converts- in fact they were expelled twice from the city of Rome for annoying people into converting. The Bible only speaks of two exiles of the ancient Hebrews. And no what I said was not speculation, it is going along with the Biblical text.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Is there now? The fact is that Jews as such have NEVER been expelled from Palestine. Yes the ancient Judean elites and a section of guess you would call it the middle class were expelled in 582/581 BC- the term Jew did not exist than, it only came into existence centuries later- but the rural masses were never expelled. The Romans contrary to myth never expelled in mass people from Palestine. Also their homeland? Do you honestly believe that Palestine is the ancestral homeland of vast majority of today's Jews? Think for a moment. Around the time of Christ a whole ten per cent of the vast Roman Empire was Jewish, would you have us believe that they all came from Palestine? Why should other people accept Jewish Religious myths that our SO obviously false?

Also over the last 1000 years the Middle East has had a far more peaceful history than Western Europe. The history of your own United States is also incredibly violent.

I believe this a distorted view of history. No historical myths. Rome did exile a large portion of the JEws when they destroyed the temple. The exiles are real, but it did not include all the Jews. Conversion in Europe was not widespread, and the Genetics of the Jews of Europe tell a different story from what construct,

What is your agenda to try and distort history?
 
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