• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Who invented "Marriage" ?

Tomef

Active Member
"Marrige" invented by whom ?
Bonus question: If sex before marriage is okay, then was there any need of this invention ?
Someone who needed a rhyme for ‘carriage’ in a poem, or a song possibly. Barrage doesn’t really do it, neither does mileage or spoilage. It’s the ia diphthong.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
To me it seems as if the De Beers Group might be behind contemporary marriage standards & conventions for the purpose of maintaining a market to sell their diamonds, in the same vein as the idea of a "Hallmark holiday" for their greeting card market.
Oy veh. Yet another conspiracy theory. This age is just...
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
"Marrige" invented by whom ?
Bonus question: If sex before marriage is okay, then was there any need of this invention ?
Marriage is geared toward the female. It is the bride who is featured in the marriage ceremony. The marriage ceremony is not about the groom; Bride's pride and Groom's doom. My guess is, marriage first appeared during the Age of Matriarchies, before the rise of civilization. These social structures were geared toward nature worship, with the female's role in pregnancy and birth, giving her a natural prestige; connected to Mother Nature.

If you look at modern school age children, the girls tend to obey the rules sooner than the boys; on average. Boys are more free spirited; on average. In terms of the evolution of human culture, this genetic residue of the past, suggests that the females became socially structured, sooner. Marriage was part of that early social structuring, arranged by the matriarches. This structuring helped to structure the more free spirited males. Like in the garden of Eden, Eve leads Adam to the tree of social knowledge. He eats because she eats. The Patriarchies would appear later, after the domestication of the males.

Males and female brain's are wired differently. The male brain is more wired front to back; visual and imagination centers. The female brain is more wired side to side; audio and verbal centers; language. Male are visual animals and females are more verbal. The brain's firmware; apps; archetypes of the collective unconscious, which define our human nature, are similar but staggered in men and women. Men and women are designed to be complements, like two gears meshing, giving torque, by turning in the opposite directions.

In my experience, when men and women became connected in intimate relationships, their unconscious minds will start to cross program each other, to connect the gears; team can become more than the sum of its parts. Marriage was a way to force a long term unconscious mind process, so the gears could hook up and help drive each other; team effect. This expanded the early male and female minds for civilization. Classic Marriage is still the most cost effective social construct for social needs; young and old.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
"Marrige" invented by whom ?
Bonus question: If sex before marriage is okay, then was there any need of this invention ?
This is unavoidably a complex, nuanced question that requires a similarly complex answer.

Marriages have both personal and public aspects, and have diverse and simultaneous meanings for different publics. Sex is not necessarily a big part of it - or even a part of it at all.

From a legal perspective, marriages are necessary in order to avoid painful conflicts over who gets to make medical decisions about a person who is unconscious, who inherits property and rights, and who shares duties and benefits.

From a social perspective, marriages are essentially statements of commitment and significance. Whether that alone would be enough to make marriages necessary may be a arbitrary decision.

A specific but important part of that social role is, of course, the declaration of mutual commitment among the married people themselves. That has emotional and motivational significance. Again, I don't know that people would consistently decide whether that this is necessary or just very welcome indeed.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
"Marrige" invented by whom ?
Bonus question: If sex before marriage is okay, then was there any need of this invention ?
I tend to believe it gradually evolved to help reduce tension within society.

On the second question, I don't have a moral problem with premarital sex per se but hope that the couple realizes what they're doing and the possible consequences in advance.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
The Age of Matriarchies was before written language and the first sustainable civilizations; about 10K years ago. Fairly complex verbal language had been developed by the females; matriarchs, connected to their natural brain wiring. Nature's bounty was being labeled. It was the time when the human ego was starting to appear in the brain. A new secondary center of consciousness was differentiating; stereo vision, leading to the modern human mind.

The bride is an ego-centric state of becoming. The female status amplifies; from girl and daughter, to wife, mother and matriarch. Her mother is the head matriarch, and has a lot of say in her daughter's marriage and married life. This classic matriarch dynamics are still with us.

Greek mythology, at the very beginning, symbolically talks about the rise of the ego and age of the Matriarchies

Out of the empty space of Chaos came Gaea, the earth, Tartarus, the underworld, and Eros, desire. Gaea gave birth to the mountains, the sky, and the sea. She took her son the sky, Uranus, as her husband, and with him, she mothered the twelve Titans, the very first gods and goddesses, taller than the mountains they used as thrones. However, Uranus was disgusted by their next children, the three cyclopes and three monstrous sons, each with fifty heads and one hundred arms, and he threw them into Tartarus, the underworld prison of suffering.

Out of the empty space of chaos; dream world, a forming secondary center or ego appears. Now we have Gaea or Mother Earth; natural instinct, and Tartarus who is similar to the ego's personal unconscious mind and shadow; under the earth forming ego consciousness. There was also Eros; love and desire. Gaea is the Age of the Matriarchies; natural earth instincts still leading, with the males sort of tripping out, as their ego becomes wired by the inner self; via chaos and tartarus.

The story is similar to the Garden of Eden, where Adam appears first. This symbolism is also about the male ego forming first; connected to Tartarus; underworld or dust of the earth, with the females staying more unified and natural. Adam or the male ego feels alone; differential thoughts. I think therefore I am. At the same time, the male mind and ego were also phasing in and out; loss of soul and gain of soul. The male ego phases out; Adam goes to sleep; reboot the system.

Marriage was a way to structure natural and tartarus or ego-centric desire. Gaea or the matriarchies were in control, choosing the mates and practicing the art of seduction, to make natural eros change more in line with the needs of the developing ego.

Eve forms from Adam's rib, with the ribs protecting the heart; eros. The male ego and heart; feelings are connected. This symbolism is connected to the female ego; behind every great man is a woman, boosting his confidence in his inner vision, with her status rising with him and her; team is more than the sum of its parts; arranged marriages of children who play together from youth.

There is incest symbolism; Gaea and her son, Uranus; sky, as well as mention of genetic birth defects; three cyclopes and three monstrous sons, each with fifty heads and one hundred arms, and also evolved children; twelve titans as tall as the mountains.

Gaea and Uranus mating; earth and sky, is where natural instinct meets blue sky ideas; male ego imagination from tartarus. Marriage became a way to deal with this evolutionary change, as well as beefed up the gene pool, through arranged marriages.

The invention of written language would change everything including the rise of the Patriarchies; male and female egos consolidate and sustained civilizations would appear. The marriage ceremony is still passed forward in time; inner self and ego, by most religions. The decrease in marriage in the secular world, reflects the unconscious state of not knowing there are two centers; think there is only one. This allows the shadow to lead the ego with the ego thinking this is natural to itself; more of an added subroutine. Once you discover we have two centers; ego and the inner self, you can differentiate the shadow from the inner self, better.
 
Top