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Which religion is most similar to my views? Input is appreciated!

MissDiscerner

Eternal student

My fear came from many things:
1) I have a terrible fear of the hell. I'm a pyrophobe (fear of fire) and there are Christians who say that the non-Christians and former Christians go to hell.
2) The resurrection thesis drives me nuts! Dead bodies coming back to life? More: I already read that the bad people (including former Christians, no matter how good they are as non-Christians) will be ugly!
3) I can't stand the reincarnation thesis. So are the people who were born poor or handicapped guilty of that? Gimme a break! :mad:

BTW: Those are just my personal opinions! Hope all of you understand... please, don't ban me!
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
My fear came from many things:
1) I have a terrible fear of the hell. I'm a pyrophobe (fear of fire) and there are Christians who say that the non-Christians and former Christians go to hell.
2) The resurrection thesis drives me nuts! Dead bodies coming back to life? More: I already read that the bad people (including former Christians, no matter how good they are as non-Christians) will be ugly!
3) I can't stand the reincarnation thesis. So are the people who were born poor or handicapped guilty of that? Gimme a break! :mad:
What about "everyone goes to Heaven"?

BTW: Those are just my personal opinions! Hope all of you understand... please, don't ban me!
Lol, calm down, you're fine. Banning isn't done lightly here. :)
 

Prophet

breaking the statutes of my local municipality
Jevam: I think you may be an enlightened being, sir. I doubt religion will have much to offer you. :)
 
It sounds to me like you are a higher thinker, extremely spiritual, yet you possess a very imaginative ability to create alternate worlds. Our minds cannot grasp all that encompasses the Alpha and the Omega, yet we have this amazing desire to worship and serve something or someone. He is our grand creator and his purpose, although mans is constantly changing, his purpose has never changed. Through the centuries his Holy Spirit inspired word, The Bible, has survived and brought much comfort and hope to mankind. Our duty is to read and apply all that he instructs within those Holy writings. Jesus came to this earth for the sake of mankind to redeem our sins. He didn't have to do this but he had such love for man. He was there from the beginning of mans creation. Our duty is to come into a approved standing before God and be a part of his purpose for mankind.
 

The Genesis Code

New Member
Good day to you all.

Please take the time to read this entire post as I am seeking some sincere guidance from all of you other souls out there. I am 18 years old and I have been unhappy for a long time, due to being dead inside because I had no connection to any sort of spirituality. So I have been on a journey to attain spiritual wisdom. I have done a lot of spiritual research without bias because I want to find some sort of meaning in life and I want to have truth and wisdom. I have come to a few conclusions as to the nature of the physical and spiritual realm. None of this is canon and I'm hoping for advice and guidance from all of you.

First of all, I believe in one creation source. I believe it is a source of non-physical (spiritual) energy which is in a non-physical realm that co-exists with our current physical realm. I think this creation source created the laws of physics, time and space, and all of the matter in the universe that abides by the laws of physics.

I believe each human has a soul because our brains have evolved to be sophisticated enough to draw a piece of this creation source's energy into our brain. So basically, the creation source is in all of us, as we are apart of it, and none of us are different from each other or anything else in the universe because we are all one with the creation source. Animals, plants, and other non-living objects have the creation source in them, but not to the extent of humans. Humans have so much of the creation source in us that we can actually be considered deity incarnate, so the bible is kinda right when it says "he created us in his image." Which is why I believe Jesus said he is the son of God, and to love your enemies, because your enemies are actually you, and everyone is the son/daughter of God. I love any figure in history with wisdom, I love Jesus, I love Vishnu, I love the Wiccan Goddess and God, because they are all aspects of the divine creation source. Same as if you poison the environment, if you poison the environment you actually poison yourself because the environment is part of the creation source and you are part of the creation source to... sorry if I'm rambling, but basically.. ALL IS ONE.

Since our souls are simply part of the creation source, I believe that we can manipulate this spiritual energy any way we want. For example, when a Christian prays to heal the sick, or when a Wiccan casts a spell for good health, I believe they are wielding this non-physical, spiritual power. Likewise, I believe that any deity in any religion can exist, because as our souls/minds believe in a deity, we actually manipulate the creation source and it can manifest itself in such a deity. So does the Abrahamic god exist? Yes. Vishnu? Yes. Native American animal spirits and their "creator?" Yes. The creation source can be anything because it is the source of all things, it can be happiness, sorrow, anger, love, death and life... purely chaotic, without order. Which is why the creation source created the ordered universe with the laws of physics and matter, so that the creation source can experience life, attain more wisdom, love, care, etc, by living through us. The creation source can't be a loving grandfather on its own, can't have sexual experiences on its own, can't be a child enjoying a candy on its own, it can't learn the value of helping friends on its own, so the creation source is actually bettering itself as it lives through us and learns lessons. Think of the universe as a perpetual motion machine of self-betterment created by the creation source, whatever you may personify it as - Allah, Vishnu, the great Goddess, etc.

I believe that when we die, our consciousness (the soul) either rejoins with the main consciousness (the creation source), or is simply reincarnated into a brain that is sophisticated enough to use it, like a developing fetus so that the piece of the creation source which is the soul can live yet again and attain more wisdom for the creation source.

I think that my incarnated life is to attain more wisdom for the creation source when I die, because before I was largely ignorant/arrogant about spirituality, but now that I have looked for spiritual wisdom I actually feel that life has a point and I feel that I am apart of something greater than anything we can imagine. I feel like my soul has grown, learned, matured. I truly feel one and in tune with both the universe/nature and the spiritual realm. By the time my life ends and I rejoin the main consciousness for a period of time, I hope I bring experiences of love, spiritual wisdom, and modesty to better the main consciousness (which is actually ourselves, guhh it's hard to put into words).

CLIFF NOTES FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WISH TO READ THE PARAGRAPHS:

- There is one main creation source that exists in the non-physical spiritual realm.
- The creation source created the laws of physics and all the matter that abides by it. This is known as our universe.
- Our souls are simply spiritual energy (consciousness) from this creation source, our brains evolved to be sophisticated enough to draw a portion of the great consciousness and wield it. So we are god, god is us, the universe is god.
- Since our souls are spiritual energy, we can manipulate the great consciousness and spiritual energy in any way. Having deities such as the Abrahamic god, Vishnu, the Wiccan goddess, etc, actually manifest themselves and be real. Likewise prayer/magic also works due to utilizing spiritual energy.
- The point of life is so that the creation source (godhead) can live through us. So that it can learn the lessons of life and better itself. The universe is a perpetual motion machine of self betterment created by the godhead so that it can learn life lessons, attain wisdom, through us. We are all god, parts of it, bettering ourselves.

What do you think of my spiritual view thus far? Please add anything if you would like to, or tell me what you disagree with. I will be very appreciative and use it to attain even more wisdom.

With much love, Jesse. :)

You, my friend, are above the limitations of religion. You will never find an organization that carries the amount of unlimited knowledge you already know. You have so much potential, and so much to teach the world, let's stay connected. Go to my website, see who I am, for I already know much about your from your words.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I'd say Advaita Vedanta (like me)> non-dual hinduism read about it on=line. I think it fits
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Does anyone else find it fascinating how virtually everyone saw in the OP traces of their own thinking and simply recommended their religion? Talk about an great example of projection.
 

alexos

New Member
You don't have to look for a religion any more. You are past religion. You have to look for a cultivation practice that will return you to the origin of your creation, before you landed into the maze of this earthly life. It is now possible to return. You will find your guiding post at falundafa.org
 

shivadas

Member
All is True, Nothing is False

you should read philosophy and decide which belief system is most comfortable, after you have an idea of whats what, then choose...

I recommend Eastern philosophy

"the journey of a thousand miles begins with one step" - Lao Tzu

also look up Ajah Dharma on wordpress
 

PMderry

The Leprechaun
Belief-O-Matic- Beliefnet.com

From the test results I've seen should give you some starting points.

Wow this was really fun. I got 100% for Orthodox Judaism, 97% for Islam (my real religion) and then my third place was reform Judaism. lol.

I went and read their descriptions on each religion and Islam truly fits me 100% (even though there was one thing in there that the quiz said about Islam which isnt true.) Im rarely happy with Muslims, but I'm always happy with Islam. I do have a soft spot for Judaism though :) Glad to see the quiz picked up on that. haha.
 
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loverOfTruth

Well-Known Member
Good day to you all.

Please take the time to read this entire post as I am seeking some sincere guidance from all of you other souls out there. I am 18 years old and I have been unhappy for a long time, due to being dead inside because I had no connection to any sort of spirituality. So I have been on a journey to attain spiritual wisdom. I have done a lot of spiritual research without bias because I want to find some sort of meaning in life and I want to have truth and wisdom. I have come to a few conclusions as to the nature of the physical and spiritual realm. None of this is canon and I'm hoping for advice and guidance from all of you.

First of all, I believe in one creation source. I believe it is a source of non-physical (spiritual) energy which is in a non-physical realm that co-exists with our current physical realm. I think this creation source created the laws of physics, time and space, and all of the matter in the universe that abides by the laws of physics.

I believe each human has a soul because our brains have evolved to be sophisticated enough to draw a piece of this creation source's energy into our brain. So basically, the creation source is in all of us, as we are apart of it, and none of us are different from each other or anything else in the universe because we are all one with the creation source. Animals, plants, and other non-living objects have the creation source in them, but not to the extent of humans. Humans have so much of the creation source in us that we can actually be considered deity incarnate, so the bible is kinda right when it says "he created us in his image." Which is why I believe Jesus said he is the son of God, and to love your enemies, because your enemies are actually you, and everyone is the son/daughter of God. I love any figure in history with wisdom, I love Jesus, I love Vishnu, I love the Wiccan Goddess and God, because they are all aspects of the divine creation source. Same as if you poison the environment, if you poison the environment you actually poison yourself because the environment is part of the creation source and you are part of the creation source to... sorry if I'm rambling, but basically.. ALL IS ONE.

Since our souls are simply part of the creation source, I believe that we can manipulate this spiritual energy any way we want. For example, when a Christian prays to heal the sick, or when a Wiccan casts a spell for good health, I believe they are wielding this non-physical, spiritual power. Likewise, I believe that any deity in any religion can exist, because as our souls/minds believe in a deity, we actually manipulate the creation source and it can manifest itself in such a deity. So does the Abrahamic god exist? Yes. Vishnu? Yes. Native American animal spirits and their "creator?" Yes. The creation source can be anything because it is the source of all things, it can be happiness, sorrow, anger, love, death and life... purely chaotic, without order. Which is why the creation source created the ordered universe with the laws of physics and matter, so that the creation source can experience life, attain more wisdom, love, care, etc, by living through us. The creation source can't be a loving grandfather on its own, can't have sexual experiences on its own, can't be a child enjoying a candy on its own, it can't learn the value of helping friends on its own, so the creation source is actually bettering itself as it lives through us and learns lessons. Think of the universe as a perpetual motion machine of self-betterment created by the creation source, whatever you may personify it as - Allah, Vishnu, the great Goddess, etc.

I believe that when we die, our consciousness (the soul) either rejoins with the main consciousness (the creation source), or is simply reincarnated into a brain that is sophisticated enough to use it, like a developing fetus so that the piece of the creation source which is the soul can live yet again and attain more wisdom for the creation source.

I think that my incarnated life is to attain more wisdom for the creation source when I die, because before I was largely ignorant/arrogant about spirituality, but now that I have looked for spiritual wisdom I actually feel that life has a point and I feel that I am apart of something greater than anything we can imagine. I feel like my soul has grown, learned, matured. I truly feel one and in tune with both the universe/nature and the spiritual realm. By the time my life ends and I rejoin the main consciousness for a period of time, I hope I bring experiences of love, spiritual wisdom, and modesty to better the main consciousness (which is actually ourselves, guhh it's hard to put into words).

CLIFF NOTES FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WISH TO READ THE PARAGRAPHS:


- There is one main creation source that exists in the non-physical spiritual realm.
- The creation source created the laws of physics and all the matter that abides by it. This is known as our universe.
- Our souls are simply spiritual energy (consciousness) from this creation source, our brains evolved to be sophisticated enough to draw a portion of the great consciousness and wield it. So we are god, god is us, the universe is god.
- Since our souls are spiritual energy, we can manipulate the great consciousness and spiritual energy in any way. Having deities such as the Abrahamic god, Vishnu, the Wiccan goddess, etc, actually manifest themselves and be real. Likewise prayer/magic also works due to utilizing spiritual energy.
- The point of life is so that the creation source (godhead) can live through us. So that it can learn the lessons of life and better itself. The universe is a perpetual motion machine of self betterment created by the godhead so that it can learn life lessons, attain wisdom, through us. We are all god, parts of it, bettering ourselves.

What do you think of my spiritual view thus far? Please add anything if you would like to, or tell me what you disagree with. I will be very appreciative and use it to attain even more wisdom.

With much love, Jesse. :)

If you believe in the One Creator (i.e. your one creation source), I would like to suggest the following to you. Set aside all religion, all holy book and have a heartfelt conversation with the one Creator directly - ask Him to guide you towards Him if He truly exists and be sincere regarding your intention to follow Him if you find the Truth. And I have no doubt in my mind that you will be guided to the Truth.

After all if the Creator exists and He wants us humans to believe in Him and follow Him, He must have send His message through some religion/messenger to the mankind. So the bottom line is finding the True God and His message so we can follow Him and find Peace.

However, I do not think it is a good idea to make a list of our own personal criterion and then see which religion fits our 'desires'. Because as you believe in the 'evil forces' - they can influence our 'desires' to follow the false path.

As stated in the Holy Qur'an :
"Satan promises them and arouses desire in them. But Satan does not promise them except delusion. The refuge of those will be Hell, and they will not find from it an escape. But the ones who believe and do righteous deeds - We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever. [It is] the promise of Allah(God) , [which is] truth, and who is more truthful than Allah(God) in statement. Paradise is not [obtained] by your wishful thinking nor by that of the People of the Scripture. Whoever does a wrong will be recompensed for it, and he will not find besides Allah(God) a protector or a helper.And whoever does righteous deeds, whether male or female, while being a believer - those will enter Paradise and will not be wronged, [even as much as] the speck on a date seed.And who is better in religion than one who submits himself to Allah(God) while being a doer of good and follows the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth? And Allah(God) took Abraham as an intimate friend." Al-Qur'an (4:120-125)

Obviously, I am writing this message to invite you to study little bit about the way I follow and believe is the True way. I am a follower of the Islamic faith and would like to provide you with some information to study. Also, I would be more than happy to answer any questions/concerns you have in this regard. I would hope that you would give Islam the same consideration that you are willing to give any theistic idea and setting aside all the negative stereotypes that you might have already conceived due to the media portrayal and/or current events caused by some misguided followers.

I would encourage you to read the translation of Holy Quran (Complete English Translation of The Noble Quran) with an open mind as God states :
"(This is) a Book (the Quran) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its Verses, and that men of understanding may remember. "(Quran 38:29)

For a quick overview of the basics of Islam, please visit :
The Simple Message of GOD: A Catholic's Request: Dispelling the lies about Islam

For a little deeper understanding including some evidences for the truth of Islam, please visit :
Islam Guide: A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam, Muslims, & the Quran

I wish you Peace and Success in this journey of yours.
 

Vichar

Member
Hi!

I also believe that spirit is the creator of all things we see in the physical world. I was thinking that the beliefs you describe are consistent with a lot of religions, actually. There's only one world (even though we can only currently perceive a small bit of it), so any belief system that pits science against religion would be suspect to me.

Religions come with a lot of ritual, and you may be turned off by that because some of the ritual resembles habits formed over time that may have diluted their original purpose.

You might consider researching Taoism. If nothing else, I found this fascinating read in a book called "The Chronicles of the Tao." It's written in biographical form, and I had fun trying to decide for myself if it was a true story or not.

Best wishes to you on your journey! If you are sincere in your seeking and you keep looking you WILL find what you are looking for.
 

aewbarnes

Andy Barnes
I would definitely agree that there is a good deal of hinduism in there, more Vaishivism rather than Vedanta but then I did get a feeling that you were veering towards Vedanta and it's very close cousin Buddhism. In the West, this is best classified as monism.
I say you were veering towards it as you still held on to the idea that something created everything physical, but then went on to say that everything was part of the creator. This can't actually be the case as if you are going to hold, as I do, that everything is one (Monism etc) then there can't actually be a seperate creator. As soon as you have an-other, then everything is no longer everything as there is the other. Advaita Vedanta (a branch of Hinduism) and Buddhism along with Monism holds that everything is literally one and that there is no creator. everything always was, just in an ever changing form of energy or vibration. It is this energy that vibrates in myriad ways to create everything in it's variety. Therefore any sense of self or 'I' is transient and upon death the vibration will continue at a new vibration. To lose the identification with self in order to truly experience the at-one-ment is the goal of all religions and spiritual paths, ultimately. The difference is merely in how each seeks to do this. As others have said, you don't need to follow any of them to grow towards your own at-one-ment, but equally, if one or another feels that it speaks to you and feels right, then go with it. I would simply suggest that you be careful not to get drawn in by the more literal, dogmatic members of any religion who haven't yet grown themselves beyond the dogma and who can sometimes prefer to see others also follow blindly. from your posting here, I get a sense that you are unlikely to fall foul of this though as you seem to have already done much self-searching to come to a good understanding of energy.
Wishing you unlimited opportunities for growth on your journey.
Andy
 
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