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When one claims to know fact based on story one is essentially fooling oneself.Then we have the fact that Jesus was a scholar. We know this from the story of when ...
When one claims to know fact based on story one is essentially fooling oneself.
And why do you trust this particular story as opposed to, for example, the Infancy narratives?It may be a story told by someone you trust, i.e. a scientist, but without reproduction...well you get the point.
I get that Islam see's Christianity as an offshot of Judaism gone wrong. I get that things develop with time and when people can be more receptive toward it. What I don't get is how Islam didn't just complete Judeo-Christian, but completely change it. There are so many early beliefs and practices that were being taught and practiced that are unseen in Islam.If we add to this the factor that his disciples were, comparatively, simple in regard to scripture (i.e. fishermen?), then there is more than enough room for what Jesus said, and what Jesus is reported to have said, to have some distance between them.
I know, you guys deem the Bible to be distorted to an extent.
So what passages do muslims believe in and do not believe in?
Thanks...If I could be bothered. It looks very much like one revelation to me. As a Christian I looked to rabbinical Judaism to help me understand my Christianity, figuring Jesus was a Jew, and there must be something left of historic Judaism. I seriously considered becoming Jewish, apart from the fact that I couldn't bring myself to renounce Jesus. Actually Islam was put to me by some friends, and at first I had little interest in it, I was much more interested in the Zohar etc. It was actually later on having learnt more about the semiotic in the traditions that the Quran struck me as true. I'm sorry if I can't point it out to you, but I'm not Umberto Eco, my post herein was addressed to Muslims in their acquisition of knowledge, and how it would be wise to approach previous revelations. I was never a bible basher when I was a Christian, I'm even less so as a Muslim, I prefer to read books than try and convince others to.
I am unfamiliar with such a definition. The fact remains that you reasonably suggest that ...One of the definitions of a story is that one takes it to be true, ...
his disciples were, comparatively, simple in regard to scripture (i.e. fishermen?), then there is more than enough room for what Jesus said, and what Jesus is reported to have said, to have some distance between them.
You're right. I apologize for the diversion.This is actually a place for us to discuss Islam, and in this thread particularly to answer supposéd contradictions between Islam, Christianity and Judaism.
Well done - both in demonstrating your dictionary skills and your ability to evade the main point of the post. As you wish ...
And actually in another Surah it again speaks of him speaking in his infancy, and as a preacher, i.e. to the people, by which we can read a subtext that he was learnéd in scripture.
"Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous." Al-Imran, 3:45-46