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When did Jesus die?

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The Anointed

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lostwanderingsoul said:
You like to write a lot of words that say nothing about the question. Jesus said he would be in the tomb for three days and nights. If you do not believe this then you are calling Jesus a liar. Your long answer said nothing about this. Is Jesus a liar?
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It appears that you have not read the previous posts in this thread, or simply do not have the ability to comprehend that which you have read: because I have repeatedly stated that Jesus was dead for three periods of Darkness and three periods of daylight

Lostwanderingsoul Wrote in post #57…….Well, first of all, Hades means the grave. People in the grave are dead. There is no preaching or anything else. The Bible says that the dead "know not anything". So it would do no good to preach to someone who knows not anything. Second, if Jesus was in Hades for three days and nights, there is no way it could have been from Friday sunset to Sunday sunrise. If you truly believe that, then you do not believe in Jesus for he himself said that was the only sign of who he was.

To begin with, Hades is the abode of the shades of the dead, and the minds/spirits of the people who have died the first death, which is that of the physical body in which they the minds have developed, are not dead.

Flesh and blood cannot inherit eternal life, only the minds/spirits that develop within those physical wombs, which are to inherit incorruptible bodies of brilliant and blinding light, but it is the physical body that must come first.

The righteous are at rest in Christ and the unrighteous are in the mental torment of their own making as they await the Great day of Judgement, when they will suffer the second death, which is that of the mind that is they, then and only then, will they enter into total oblivion.

Isaiah57: 1-2; “Good people die, and no one understands or even cares. But when They (Good People) die, no calamity can hurt them. Those who lead good lives find peace and rest in death.

If people who lead good lives find peace and rest in death, what fate do you believe awaits those who lead wicked lives? You seem to think the child rapists and murderers also find peace and rest in death, total oblivion, and as Solomon said in his book Ecclesiastes, which you believe is NOT his satirical work, said; “Never again will (The dead) take part in anything that happens in the world.” So you believe as do the atheists, that the death of the body is the end of your life, total oblivion, never to take part in anything that happens in the world ever again.

Lazarus the righteous, after paying the blood price for our inherited sin, entered into rest in the bosom of Abraham, whereas the unrighteous Rich Man did not,

Do you believe that Lazarus, the brother of Mary and Martha was dead, when Jesus in a loud voice cried; “Lazarus, Come out,” and the dead man heard his voice and came out of the tomb?
 
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lostwanderingsoul

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The Anointed said:
It appears that you have not read the previous posts in this thread, or simply do not have the ability to comprehend that which you have read: because I have repeatedly stated that Jesus was dead for three periods of Darkness and three periods of daylight

Lostwanderingsoul Wrote in post #57…….Well, first of all, Hades means the grave. People in the grave are dead. There is no preaching or anything else. The Bible says that the dead "know not anything". So it would do no good to preach to someone who knows not anything. Second, if Jesus was in Hades for three days and nights, there is no way it could have been from Friday sunset to Sunday sunrise. If you truly believe that, then you do not believe in Jesus for he himself said that was the only sign of who he was.

To begin with, Hades is the abode of the shades of the dead, and the minds/spirits of the people who have died the first death, which is that of the physical body in which they the minds have developed, are not dead.

Flesh and blood cannot inherit eternal life, only the minds/spirits that develop within those physical wombs, which are to inherit incorruptible bodies of brilliant and blinding light, but it is the physical body that must come first.

The righteous are at rest in Christ and the unrighteous are in the mental torment of their own making as they await the Great day of Judgement, when they will suffer the second death, which is that of the mind that is they, then and only then, will they enter into total oblivion.

Isaiah57: 1-2; “Good people die, and no one understands or even cares. But when They (Good People) die, no calamity can hurt them. Those who lead good lives find peace and rest in death.

If people who lead good lives find peace and rest in death, what fate do you believe awaits those who lead wicked lives? You seem to think the child rapists and murderers also find peace and rest in death, total oblivion, and as Solomon said in his book Ecclesiastes, which you believe is NOT his satirical work, said; “Never again will (The dead) take part in anything that happens in the world.” So you believe as do the atheists, that the death of the body is the end of your life, total oblivion, never to take part in anything that happens in the world ever again.

Lazarus the righteous, after paying the blood price for our inherited sin, entered into rest in the bosom of Abraham, whereas the unrighteous Rich Man did not,

Do you believe that Lazarus, the brother of Mary and Martha was dead, when Jesus in a loud voice cried; “Lazarus, Come out,” and the dead man heard his voice and came out of the tomb?
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And you do not understand that three periods of dark and three periods of light is not the same as three days and three nights. The Bible clearly says that there are 12 hours of darkness in a night and 12 hours of light in a day. You connot in anyway squeeze that into Friday evening to Sunday morning. And the Bible clearly says "the dead no not anything." If they are dead and no nothing why would anyone preach to them. Again you write many words but miss the point.
 
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The Anointed

Well-Known Member
lostwanderingsoul said:
And you do not understand that three periods of dark and three periods of light is not the same as three days and three nights. The Bible clearly says that there are 12 hours of darkness in a night and 12 hours of light in a day. You connot in anyway squeeze that into Friday evening to Sunday morning. And the Bible clearly says "the dead no not anything." If they are dead and no nothing why would anyone preach to them. Again you write many words but miss the point.
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No nothing???

A day is a period of darkness followed by an equal period of Light. on the Thursday, God created an extra day of three hours of darkness from noon 12PM until 3PM when Jesus, the sacrificial lamb died between the two evenings, Noon, when the sun began its descent toward the Horizon and dusk.

Jesus was dead for the three hours of daylight, which was (Day One), Friday night the beginning of the 15th day of the first month, which was the first of the seven day festival of Unleavened Bread, into which, the Jews had incorporated their Passover, (Night One) Friday (Day Two) Saturday night (Night Two) Saturday (Day Three) Sunday Night (Night Three). Three days and three nights.

But you have Jesus being dead for Friday night (Night One) Friday (Day One) Saturday night (Night Two) Saturday (Day Two) Sunday night (Night Three) Two days and three nights.

Who were the saints who came out of their graves three days after Jesus was made dead in the flesh while still alive in spirit, in which state he went and preached the Good News to those spirits who had died the first death and were worthy to inherit eternal life?

How could the dead Lazarus have heard the voice of Jesus, if as you believe Solomon's Satirical work, which says that "The Dead Know Nothing" and will never again take part in anything that happens in the world?
 
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lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
The Anointed said:
No nothing???

A day is a period of darkness followed by an equal period of Light. on the Thursday, God created an extra day of three hours of darkness from noon 12PM until 3PM when Jesus, the sacrificial lamb died between the two evenings, Noon, when the sun began its descent toward the Horizon and dusk.

Jesus was dead for the three hours of daylight, which was (Day One), Friday night the beginning of the 15th day of the first month, which was the first of the seven day festival of Unleavened Bread, into which, the Jews had incorporated their Passover, (Night One) Friday (Day Two) Saturday night (Night Two) Saturday (Day Three) Sunday Night (Night Three). Three days and three nights.

But you have Jesus being dead for Friday night (Night One) Friday (Day One) Saturday night (Night Two) Saturday (Day Two) Sunday night (Night Three) Two days and three nights.

Who were the saints who came out of their graves three days after Jesus was made dead in the flesh while still alive in spirit, in which state he went and preached the Good News to those spirits who had died the first death and were worthy to inherit eternal life?

How could the dead Lazarus have heard the voice of Jesus, if as you believe Solomon's Satirical work, which says that "The Dead Know Nothing" and will never again take part in anything that happens in the world?
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I can only go by what Jesus said in John 11:9 "are there not twelve hours of light in the day" Nothing about three hours counting as a day. From sunset Wednesday to sunset Saturday includes three full twelve hour days and nights. Jesus said He would be in the tomb three full days and nights. I believe Him Apparently you do not.
 
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The Anointed

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lostwanderingsoul said:
I can only go by what Jesus said in John 11:9 "are there not twelve hours of light in the day" Nothing about three hours counting as a day. From sunset Wednesday to sunset Saturday includes three full twelve hour days and nights. Jesus said He would be in the tomb three full days and nights. I believe Him Apparently you do not.
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Wednesday, would have been the 13th day of the month, and was the day before Jesus ate his Passover meal in the evening of the 14th day of the first month, and two days before the Jews Passover meal, which they eat on the evening and beginning of the 15th day of the first month

Please explain how Jesus, who died at 3PM on the day of preparation to the Jews Passover, could have died before he ate the Passover meal with his disciples, before he was condemned by Pilate at midnight on the day of preparation to the Jews Passover, and before he died at 3PM on that same day?
 
sooda

sooda

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lostwanderingsoul said:
And you do not understand that three periods of dark and three periods of light is not the same as three days and three nights. The Bible clearly says that there are 12 hours of darkness in a night and 12 hours of light in a day. You connot in anyway squeeze that into Friday evening to Sunday morning. And the Bible clearly says "the dead no not anything." If they are dead and no nothing why would anyone preach to them. Again you write many words but miss the point.
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Correct.. Its not three days from Friday night to Sunday morning.. closer to 40 hours.
 
sooda

sooda

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Between 3pm on Friday to 5 am on Sunday is just 38 hours, or just over a day and a half. However, in Jewish culture, even part of a day was classed as a whole day. Therefore, we hear in the gospels that 'on the third day' Jesus rose from death.
 
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The Anointed

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sooda said:
Between 3pm on Friday to 5 am on Sunday is just 38 hours, or just over a day and a half. However, in Jewish culture, even part of a day was classed as a whole day. Therefore, we hear in the gospels that 'on the third day' Jesus rose from death.
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He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Don't bother counting the hours, but rather the periods of Darkness and the periods of Light that make up a day.

I have said it before and will now repeat it; "Did you hear about the young Eskimo girl, who spent the night with her boy-friend and woke up at sunrise to find that she was six months pregnant."
 
sooda

sooda

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The Anointed said:
He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Don't bother counting the hours, but rather the periods of Darkness and the periods of Light that make up a day.

I have said it before and will now repeat it; "Did you hear about the young Eskimo girl, who spent the night with her boy-friend and woke up at sunrise to find that she was six months pregnant."
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So Friday night and Saturday night??

Jonah was a comic novella.

Matthew 12:40 said: For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
 
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lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
The Anointed said:
Wednesday, would have been the 13th day of the month, and was the day before Jesus ate his Passover meal in the evening of the 14th day of the first month, and two days before the Jews Passover meal, which they eat on the evening and beginning of the 15th day of the first month

Please explain how Jesus, who died at 3PM on the day of preparation to the Jews Passover, could have died before he ate the Passover meal with his disciples, before he was condemned by Pilate at midnight on the day of preparation to the Jews Passover, and before he died at 3PM on that same day?
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Please show the Jewish calendar that proves this. Most people are not even sure exactly what year Jesus died. Let alone the exact day of the week.
 
sooda

sooda

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lostwanderingsoul said:
So , what day was the Passover?
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The last supper was NOT the Passover Seder.

The Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke appear to present Jesus’ Last Supper as a Seder. In John, however, the seven-day Passover festival does not begin until after Jesus is crucified.
 
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lostwanderingsoul

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sooda said:
The last supper was NOT the Passover Seder.

The Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke appear to present Jesus’ Last Supper as a Seder. In John, however, the seven-day Passover festival does not begin until after Jesus is crucified.
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So again, the real question is, what day did Jesus die? Was it Friday or some other day of the week?
 
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lostwanderingsoul

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sooda said:
Friday, around 3 PM.
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So why did Jesus say he would be in the tomb for three full days and nights? Everybody says it just means parts of three days and nights but that is not what Jesus himself said. And he said the three days and nights would be the only proof of who he was. So most people call him a liar and do not believe what he said.
 
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