What WW2 actually was: a war between banking powers

[Revoltingest]

You are getting increasingly confused.

It doesn’t say 6 million were exterminated. Just read the articles you posted.

It said 6 million were at risk because they lived in USSR/Russia where there was oppression.

But if you won’t even read your own articles properly then there’s not much I can do to change your mind on this.

If it helps, some people today say all black people in America are at risk of being killed by racist police. This doesn’t mean police will actually kill all of them or even 1% of them.

Risk of violence and death are very different.

Reading & learning interfere with beliefs.

 

[Estro Felino]

Reading & learning interfere with beliefs.

Belief in justice is important, but it's also genetic.
The best police chiefs and the best procurators in Italy are women.

 

[Revoltingest]

Belief in justice is important, but it's also genetic.
The best police chiefs and the best procurators in Italy are women.

Women thinking women are the best.
How could it be otherwise, eh.

 

[Estro Felino]

Women thinking women are the best.
How could it be otherwise, eh.

At doing justice.
I do acknowledge that men are much better at doing things. Bridges, highways, buildings.

 

[Revoltingest]

At doing justice.
I do acknowledge that men are much better at doing things. Bridges, highways, buildings.

From what I've observed of male & female judges,
lawyers, & cops, they're running neck & neck to
the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Augustus]

You find perfectly normal that they guessed the exact number (six million) which is the exact number of Jewish people killed during the genocide of the fourties. Jews from Western Europe, Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Bulgaria, etc...

I don’t find it strange because I read the articles and understand they were guesstimating or making up or uncritically repeating a number like journalists do frequently ( and you keep avoiding the question where I ask if you understand this is common)

And I also understand the made up number had nothing to do with the other number you are connecting it too.

I don't find it normal: I find it that those articles frame them. They disgust me, honestly. They planned the genocide twenty years before, at least. Maybe 30.

If you ignore what the articles actually say and then ignore the evidence regarding the actual progression of the Nazi rise to power and later genocide you can make up whatever nonsense you like and pretend it’s a reasonable assertion.

Don’t be surprised when those who read the articles and do have a rudimentary understanding of the Nazi genocide think you are talking nonsense though.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

There are tens of articles. Already photographed and authenticated by that member of the Nuremberg trials.
A reliable source who has lived through the fourties.
And most of them say: "Jews of Europe, do move out from Europe. Six million Jews are to be exterminated"
1915-1936 articles.

Claiming it is not going to cut it.
None of the ones you actually posted said, eventhough you claimed they did, which they don't.

So far, the evidence suggests that you are either wrong or lying about what these articles say, as the one you posted didn't actually say what you claim they said.

 

[John53]

Kennedy would have revolutionized the political system...
but he was murdered.
His brother too. MLK too.

Those élites will kill anyone.

If they're so powerful why haven't they stopped you exposing them on an internet forum?

 

[Estro Felino]

If they're so powerful why haven't they stopped you exposing them on an internet forum?

Because I live across the ocean?

 

[John53]

Because I live across the ocean?

Not real powerful then are they. Not that they'd have to go overseas to shut down an internet forum.

 

[Augustus]

Not real powerful then are they. Not that they'd have to go overseas to shut down an internet forum.

Well if they were puppeteers in Russia and Germany they just need to hop on a train to get to our Italian friend.

“We masterminded the holocaust 30 years in advance, but draw the line at ordering a train ticket off the internet…”

 

[John53]

Well if they were puppeteers in Russia and Germany they just need to hop on a train to get to our Italian friend.

“We masterminded the holocaust 30 years in advance, but draw the line at ordering a train ticket off the internet…”

All that work undone by one person. It's a miracle.

 

[Stevicus]

That perfectly describes your response
to the history of socialist countries.

My responses on that subject are far more detailed and nuanced than your throwaway comments.

And yet, the results we see are largely
the opposite of the goals you claim.

You say.

The road to fascism is paved with
socialist dreams of fairness & justice.

The road to fascism always comes from capitalism.

 

[Stevicus]

Arguing against facile cliches with facile cliches seems the wrong approach.

Capitalism is not rooted in that any more than socialism is rooted in Stalinism.

I realize that there may be variations, but if we judge these ideologies based on what their advocates say, then it clearly backs up my point. A famous socialist once said "Peace, land, and bread," indicating their desire to provide for the needs of the people. A famous capitalist once said "Greed is good," indicating the primary tenet of that ideology.

So, if we're just going by what they say in support of their own doctrine, then my point stands.

 

[Revoltingest]

My responses on that subject are far more detailed and nuanced than your throwaway comments.

You confuse "nuance" with "confusion" & "irrelevance".

You say.

Correctly, per the dismal history of every socialist
country, eg, N Korea, USSR, Khmer Rouge.

The road to fascism always comes from capitalism.

Except for every socialist country, eg, <see above>.
But capitalism has the advantage that many countries
avoid fascism, eg, Denmark, Switzerland, Canuckistan.

 

[Stevicus]

You confuse "nuance" with "confusion" & "irrelevance".

Your opinion is noted.

Correctly, per the dismal history of every socialist
country, eg, N Korea, USSR, Khmer Rouge.

Opinion noted.

Except for every socialist country, eg, <see above>.
But capitalism has the advantage that many countries
avoid fascism, eg, Denmark, Switzerland, Canuckistan.

Opinion noted.

 

[Revoltingest]

Your opinion is noted.



Opinion noted.




Opinion noted.

I've no argument with that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I know. It was terrible of him
to seize the German economy
in that way.

That has nothing to do with it. Hitler detested the socialist part of the party name, and he did round up and execute communist and socialist party leaders.

Aye, Christians desperately want to
sever any connection to him also.
Gott mit uns, jawohl!

Yeah, no, those closest to Hitler have uniformly confirmed in their private writings Hitler loathed and detested Christian and merely used it as a vehicle to help appeal to the German masses. Hitler himself wrote he wished the Germans were Muslim so they'd have a spirit of conquest.

 

[Revoltingest]

That has nothing to do with it. Hitler detested the socialist part of the party name, and he did round up and execute communist and socialist party leaders.

Yeah, no, those closest to Hitler have uniformly confirmed in their private writings Hitler loathed and detested Christian and merely used it as a vehicle to help appeal to the German masses. Hitler himself wrote he wished the Germans were Muslim so they'd have a spirit of conquest.

I've nothing to add.
Geeze...yer in a mood today.
Are you angling to join RF staff?

 

[Augustus]

I realize that there may be variations, but if we judge these ideologies based on what their advocates say, then it clearly backs up my point. A famous socialist once said "Peace, land, and bread," indicating their desire to provide for the needs of the people. A famous capitalist once said "Greed is good," indicating the primary tenet of that ideology.

So, if we're just going by what they say in support of their own doctrine, then my point stands.

Cherry picking quotes is easy

Trotsky: “We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life”

Adam Smith (who was a moral philosopher): The natural effort of every individual to better his own condition...is so powerful, that it is alone, and without any assistance, not only capable of carrying on the society to wealth and prosperity, but of surmounting a hundred impertinent obstructions with which the folly of human laws too often encumbers its operations.


Better to start with the idea that both see their ideology as being ethical and contributing to the greater good of all people rather than painting one as noble and pure and the other as selfish and mean spirited.