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What WW2 actually was: a war between banking powers

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I trust real sources...you know...like this.
First, what I posted was real and based on the number of antisemitic incidents. Also you msy want to look at the PDF i linked as well, if you do there were over 2000 politically motivated antisemitic crimes in Germany in 2022

And now, did you actually read that article you linked, I'm guessing you did not

First, Germany is not listed in the safest as number 2 in anything in that article. Italy is listed number one here, where Germany is near the bottom

From the article

What do the numbers say?​

The countries were ranked in the following order, from best to worst: Italy, Hungary, Denmark, the UK, Austria, Holland, Sweden, Germany, Spain, France, Poland and Belgium. The rankings took into account all the categories that were measured.

However when you read further, also from the article

Also from the Article

In terms of government performance, meaning how much the government has done to protect and develop the Jewish communities, Germany and Austria were ranked the best, followed by France, the Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, Hungary, the UK, Poland, Denmark, Spain and Belgium.

You should understand that does not translate to "safest" that translates to what the government is doing to make it better, does not mean it is actually better. And it appears Germany tops the list for "Working on it". Italy comes in 5th

Again from the article

Where do Jews say they feel the most secure?​

Denmark was ranked the most secure, followed by Hungary, Italy, Austria, Spain, the UK, the Netherlands, Sweden, Poland, Germany, Belgium and France.

Regarding public attitudes toward Israel, the Netherlands ranked the highest, followed by the UK, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, Germany, Spain, France, Belgium, Poland, Hungary and Austria.


Neither Italy or Germany are number 1 or 2, Italy comes in at number 3 here as to where Jewish people say they feel safest

So you are once again you are not correct with your original statement of "Italy and Germany being the safest places in the world" for Jewish people. And this time you proved that by an article you supplied.
 
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Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Historical trivia....
Mussolini idolized GC Scott, & wanted to be
like him. He kept posters of the actor all over
his bedroom. His parents worried that he was
gay, & sent him to a de-conversion camp in the
Berchtesgaden Alps. There he met Hitler, where
instead of becoming straight, had a homosexual
affair with the would-be ruler of the world.
aaaaa no..... Mussolini was 44 years older than George C Scott... and of course the fact that George C Scott did not really show up on the screen until 1951 and Mussolini died in 1945. as for the rest, it is only slightly less truthful than other "facts" I have seen put forth in this thread
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
aaaaa no..... Mussolini was 44 years older than George C Scott... and of course the fact that George C Scott did not really show up on the screen until 1951 and Mussolini died in 1945. as for the rest, it is only slightly less truthful than other "facts" I have seen put forth in this thread
That just shows that you've bought into the
sanitized history proffered by Hollywood.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
That just shows that you've bought into the
sanitized history proffered by Hollywood.
No, it just shows that I stick to historical facts and not silly conspiracy theories and utter fantasy....ya silly spreader of historical fallacy
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, it just shows that I stick to historical facts and not silly conspiracy theories and utter fantasy....ya silly spreader of historical fallacy
Poor bear....just a dupe of the Movie
Industrial Complex. I'll bet you even
believe the Moon landing stories!
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
A side note on all of this.... Another of the Axis powers, Japan, although also guilty of its own war crimes, was told by Germany to take all its Jews, it was holding prisoner in the ghettos, put them on a barge, take the barge out to sea, and sink it. Japan refused to do that.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
You should understand that does not translate to "safest" that translates to what the government is doing to make it better, does not mean it is actually better.
An interesting side note on that, such distinctions are typically very well understood by the trans community where we would usually know that government policy doesn't necessarily (and usually doesn't) reflect local community practices.
This is where a place like Norway ranks high with government effort but low with social acceptance.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Gregory Peck looks nothing like George C Scott.... when he is looking like Mussolini

He doesn't look like Mussolini here either, but he was in Italy.

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Christopher Plummer played a Nazi in that movie, still wondering how to solve a problem like Maria.
 

JIMMY12345

Active Member
Also thanks to a Polish professor who has become honorary member of the Nuremberg trials, I finally understood what pushed Nazi Germans (and the people behind the scenes funding Nazi Germany) to spend so much money on a very extenuating, destructive and self-destructive conflict that involved all European countries, or nearly. It was really something absolutely programmed: there was nothing causal or random in WW2.

It's a very complex and long story, but to simplify:
- the 1929 Crash was so devastating that the banking powers (Warburg, Rockefeller, whose interests were not affected by the Crash) understood they needed to compete with the Socialistic wind blowing in Europe. Socialism had triumphed in Russia, of course. But it had become successful in Italy too, since Mussolini was a socialist who compromised with the Nationalists (Fascists) to prevent a Soviet Revolution from taking place in the country.
But Socialism was being implemented in Britain, France, Germany, Scandinavia, as well. And Spain, above all: that will cause the breakout of the horrific Spanish Civil War.
- Between the twenties and the thirties, these banking powers decided to fund Hitler since they did know a Socialistic revolution was inevitable in Germany. And they did know that their rivals would have done anything to take over in Germany, after the Crash. These powers pushed the Nazis to build the most efficient and greatest military-industrial complex. Auschwitz was built by the IG Farben, the largest petrochemical industry in the world, at that time. Owned by Warburg, Rockfeller, Teagle, Ford and others.
- In 1939, those who funded Hitler, pushed him to conquer the East. Not only because they wanted to defeat the Soviet Union, but mainly because they wished to seize the oilfields in Baku, which were the largest and the richest in the world, at that time. And oil was absolutely fundamental, in the fourties.
- To sum up, WW2 was just a game of chess between two great banking dynasties or banking powers (R. and R.) who were gaming to conquer the resources of Europe and Eastern Europe. They funded the war and benefitted from the war, by selling warfare to the states.


And the implication for future crashes eg 2008 sub prime?
 
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