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What in The World Are They Spraying?

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
Hi Katia,
I tried to run the clip twice and it froze my system both times - miught you post a synopsis of what it says?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
These chemtrails must be a very well orchestrated conspiracy indeed. Of all the aircraft companies I've worked for, not once have I ever seen the spraying system designed or installed. Perhaps there's some super-secret facility the planes are taken to by the airlines for an after-market product retrofit. It's also clever how they've duped us engineers into buying into that old "contrail" from condensed exhaust products theory. Engineering schools were pretty backward in my day - no youtube videos.
 

katiafish

consciousness incarnate
Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Considering that some political figures have publicly admitted that the spraying is indeed going on.. As what I know, it is done from the military planes...

But in any case, since you are a specialist, I would like to hear your take on the story :)
 

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
Thanks Katia,

I don't believe it.
I don't believe in man-made golbal warming and I don't believe in this story. Sorry :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Considering that some political figures have publicly admitted that the spraying is indeed going on.. As what I know, it is done from the military planes...
But in any case, since you are a specialist, I would like to hear your take on the story :)
I worked on the F-18 & some commercial planes. We were extremely weight conscious....if it didn't
kill the other guy or keep our guy alive, it didn't get on the plane. Which models had the sprayers?
What would they spray? Where were the tanks? How were they powered? How were they jettisoned
in emergencies?
 

blackout

Violet.
I'm not a science person at all,
so I'm wondering
why a contrail would get more and more puffy
and last for hours and hours, all day even, in one spot.

But then sometimes a plane goes by and the contrail disappears
behind the plane even before the plane is completely out of sight.
And it doesn't get thick, it just streams out behind the plane,
and fades away.

Other times, the thick puffy lines are there all day. Why?

What is the science behind contrails
that accounts for such an extreme difference?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm not a science person at all,
so I'm wondering
why a contrail would get more and more puffy
and last for hours and hours, all day even, in one spot.

But then sometimes a plane goes by and the contrail disappears
behind the plane even before the plane is completely out of sight.
Other times, the thick puffy lines are there all day. Why?

What is the science behind contrails
that accounts for such an extreme difference?
I'm no expert on atmospheric science. (I can barely spell it.)
But there are greatly different velocities & levels of turbulence at the different altitudes at which planes fly..
If all the contrails behaved the same way all the time, then I'd be scratching my head in wonder.
 

katiafish

consciousness incarnate
I worked on the F-18 & some commercial planes. We were extremely weight conscious....if it didn't
kill the other guy or keep our guy alive, it didn't get on the plane. Which models had the sprayers?
What would they spray? Where were the tanks? How were they powered? How were they jettisoned
in emergencies?

I am sorry i can not answer those questions as I am not a specialist like you are. Here is a engineering challenge for you tho, instead of trying to think of how it CANT be done, how about you suggest how it CAN be done...
 

blackout

Violet.
I'm no expert on atmospheric science. (I can barely spell it.)
But there are greatly different velocities & levels of turbulence at the different altitudes at which planes fly..
If all the contrails behaved the same way all the time, then I'd be scratching my head.

Well there definitely are two distinct kinds,
and if someone could explain WHY
there are two distinct kinds,
why some just vaporize right away,
and some sit there all day long
it might help clear up the issue in question.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am sorry i can not answer those questions as I am not a specialist like you are. Here is a engineering challenge for you tho, instead of trying to think of how it CANT be done, how about you suggest how it CAN be done...
Oh, sprayers could definitely be designed & installed if desired. But I see no evidence of it being done,
nor can I even think of why they'd do it (especially at the expense of reduced military capability).
Btw, I'm not a specalist, having worked in many different industries. I'm not even an expert on anything.
 
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blackout

Violet.
Well there definitely are two distinct kinds,
and if someone could explain WHY
there are two distinct kinds,
why some just vaporize right away,
and some sit there all day long
it might help clear up the issue in question.

They don't behave the same way,
or look the same.

They both trail airplanes.
That's their biggest visible similarity.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I'm not a science person at all,
so I'm wondering
why a contrail would get more and more puffy
and last for hours and hours, all day even, in one spot.

But then sometimes a plane goes by and the contrail disappears
behind the plane even before the plane is completely out of sight.
And it doesn't get thick, it just streams out behind the plane,
and fades away.

Other times, the thick puffy lines are there all day. Why?

What is the science behind contrails
that accounts for such an extreme difference?
Off the top of my head, I know that the windspeed can vary quite a bit in the upper atmosphere. The jet stream will move north and south, and twist or straighten out... as this happens, it creates major differences in the wind at a particular spot. And this is all at very high altitude; you won't be able to feel the jet stream from the ground.

I am sorry i can not answer those questions as I am not a specialist like you are. Here is a engineering challenge for you tho, instead of trying to think of how it CANT be done, how about you suggest how it CAN be done...
Why? To feed your conspiracy fantasy?

Well there definitely are two distinct kinds,
and if someone could explain WHY
there are two distinct kinds,
why some just vaporize right away,
and some sit there all day long
it might help clear up the issue in question.
Here's a question for you: let's pretend for a moment that this hypothesis is correct, and that world governments are secretly sprinkling aluminum in the air to combat global warming.

This would've started some time after global warming became an issue of concern, right? When would that have been? At the earliest, it would've been some time in the 80s, right?

Now... I know you're a bit older than me, so you should be able to remember back before that as well. Do you remember seeing both types of contrails when you were a kid? I know I do.
 

katiafish

consciousness incarnate
Oh, sprayers could definitely be designed & installed if desired. But I see no evidence of it being done,
nor can I even think of why they'd do it (especially at the expense of reduced military capability).
Btw, I'm not a specalist, having worked in many different industries. I'm not even an expert on anything.

Ok, well, so you do admit it that from engineering standpoint it is not too much of a challenge to do it. Now to the question of Why would they do it, way i understand it is they are spraying different chemicals which affects the natural gestation and grwth of the organic plant seed, whilst simultaneously there are government supported companies that are developing the genetically modified seeds that can survive the chemicals in the soil. If the spraying does not stop, farmers around the world might end up in a situation where they can not grow anything unless they spend millions of buying this genetically modified seeds. Now to add 2+2 and think where money from this will go, where else but on the very same military development.

That is not to mention that the chemicals make people sick, which again makes them to rely on drugs developing industries and so on and so forth..

Hardly a conspiracy really, as long as there are people going "I dont believe these conspiracy theories, I dont believe whats right in front of my face", the people responsible for this dont even have to hide... :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ok, well, so you do admit it that from engineering standpoint it is not too much of a challenge to do it. Now to the question of Why would they do it, way i understand it is they are spraying different chemicals which affects the natural gestation and grwth of the organic plant seed, whilst simultaneously there are government supported companies that are developing the genetically modified seeds that can survive the chemicals in the soil. If the spraying does not stop, farmers around the world might end up in a situation where they can not grow anything unless they spend millions of buying this genetically modified seeds. Now to add 2+2 and think where money from this will go, where else but on the very same military development.

That is not to mention that the chemicals make people sick, which again makes them to rely on drugs developing industries and so on and so forth..

Hardly a conspiracy really, as long as there are people going "I dont believe these conspiracy theories, I dont believe whats right in front of my face", the people responsible for this dont even have to hide... :)
Goodness gracious, you have a wonderful imagination!
Some study of & work in the science field will help you refine your scenario.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
What if there really no conspiracy to control people with chemicals or weather but the government realizes that the idea of a conspiracy to control people produces just the right amount of fear to actually control people.

So maybe a lot of these conspiracies are not government conspiracies but non-existant conspiracies created by the public population which the government reacts to and manipulates to form public opinion.

Or the third option, maybe there is no conspiracy at all. Maybe we are just reading too much into something we don't fully understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3qFdbUEq5s
 
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