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Featured What if Jesus comes tomorrow?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Eddi, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. Trailblazer

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    But according to most Christians, it will be different this time.... Jesus will come on the clouds with power and great glory, accompanied by trumpets and angels and everyone will see Him and know it is Jesus.

    How that is possible is another story. :rolleyes:
    But God can do anything, right? ;)
    And after all it's in the Bible so it has to be true.
     
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    Jesus did not fail because Jesus never claimed to be the messiah.....
    So Jesus was not a wannabe, but He was a real Messenger of God. ;)
     
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    Why would it be different? Is God inconsistent?
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Doesn't Jesus also come "like a thief in the night?"
    That's the problem with a theology that's too formulaic and relies solely on the Bible for that formula. The Bible is multivalent, so contains many such "formulas." Which "one" is "right?"
     
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    I believe it already happened, at the right time.
     
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    That's right...
    Coming with trumpets and angels for all to see is contradictory to coming as a thief in the night that nobody would see.

    That means these verses need to be understood differently, all the verses can apply to one who would be the return of Christ. Both can apply if they are understood figuratively rather than literally.
     
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    Obviously. ;)
     
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    Dream on.
     
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    Don't you know? God can do anything so God will be able to cushion His landing. :rolleyes:
     
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    with eyes of discernment
     
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    I asked" "How will it be visible to all?"
    So all the people in the world will have eyes of discernment?
     
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    you say Jesus never claimed to be the messiah

    23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him: “I know that Mes·siʹah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one comes, he will declare all things to us openly.” 26 Jesus said to her: “I am he, the one speaking to you.”
     
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    Rev 6: 16
    "And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rocks: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

    they will know
     
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    I know that Jesus was 'a Messiah" but Jesus was not 'the Messiah' who the Jews have been waiting for.
     
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    Jesus cured the sick, gave sight to the blind, the once lame could run, he feed because they where hungry ,he even put life back into the dead. they knew he was doing these things and yet he was rejected because he did not remove the romans from the land .
     
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    It's not contradictory at all. He will be coming to the surprise of most - that would be like a thief in the night. And when he does come, all will see. That's when the mockers will be trying to hide.
     
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    I didn't know that.
     
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    Dream on. Dreams are what keeps some people going.
    I will believe it when I see it, and that means I will never believe it.
    But good luck waiting with all the rest.
     
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    LOL I already covered that. I said if your response is God can do anything and pulls a magic act for Jesus to land, then that makes Jesus magic, a God, which means he is not a man. We can't relate to that.
     
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    Sense many would still not believe if he did come to earth I am not sure what the point of this thread is. If I saw Angels in the sky I would think it was a trick of Christian media......……...……......sorry
     
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