What does "take away the sins of the world" mean?

[Twig pentagram]

Actually the world will be a place without sin when Jesus returns for those in the Kingdomof God and will be completely without sin after the 1000 years.

Thats what you think.

 

[esmith]

Jesus sacrifice was for the purpose of balancing the scales of injustice brought about by Adam.

Adam introduced sin and death, '

Have a couple of questions
1. What is "sin"
2. What did the symbolic figure Adam do to "sin"

 

[thegospelkiss]

the violation of God's will. Since no created being can actually violate God's will - otherwise that being would have trumped God, and supplanted Him - sin is not possibly. It's a delusion, a lie. There's no such thing as sin. Deliverance is the recognition of this fact within this context; salvation is the experience of the reality of it. This...is the gospel.

 

[Flower]

the violation of God's will. Since no created being can actually violate God's will - otherwise that being would have trumped God, and supplanted Him - sin is not possibly. It's a delusion, a lie. There's no such thing as sin. Deliverance is the recognition of this fact within this context; salvation is the experience of the reality of it. This...is the gospel.

All assumption, NOT a fact.

 

[Twig pentagram]

All assumption, NOT a fact.

This whole debate is subjective. You did'nt actually think you would find some facts here, did you?

 

[thegospelkiss]

All assumption, NOT a fact.

So sin is something other than a 'violation of God's will?

 

[thegospelkiss]

This whole debate is subjective. You did'nt actually think you would find some facts here, did you?

Words have meanings/definitions. These are 'facts'. Not using words properly - according to their meanings - is counter-factual.

But everything is subjective - if you're not God.

 

[Flower]

So sin is something other than a 'violation of God's will?

We have no idea if god exists let alone what its will is. EVERYTHING including what is written in the Bible about the deity is an assumption, not a fact.

 

[Poisonshady313]

Words have meanings/definitions. These are 'facts'. Not using words properly - according to their meanings - is counter-factual.

That's the thing.

Your use of the words "sin" and/or "will" apparently don't jive with other people's meanings/definitions of those words.

 

[Pegg]

Have a couple of questions
1. What is "sin"
2. What did the symbolic figure Adam do to "sin"

sin means to fall below the perfect mark of perfection set by God...the consequences are death.

Adam did this by rejecting Gods authority. From that point on, the consequences of Adams disobedience came into effect and were inadvertently passed on genetically to all his offspring.

So to remove sin means to bring mankind back into harmony with Gods perfect standards....this is exactly what Christ will do, he will guide mankind back to that perfect standard so as to permanently remove sin and death.

 

[thegospelkiss]

We have no idea if god exists let alone what its will is. EVERYTHING including what is written in the Bible about the deity is an assumption, not a fact.

Even if we assume that God doesn't exist for the sake of argument, the word 'sin' still means what it means. Unicorn still means what it means even though most agree they don't exist.

 

[thegospelkiss]

That's the thing.

Your use of the words "sin" and/or "will" apparently don't jive with other people's meanings/definitions of those words.

I can't help it if others misunderstand their own doctrine, or avoid the logical conclusions of their own premises. You'll have to ask them about that.

 

[chinu]

Actually the world will be a place without sin when Jesus returns for those in the Kingdomof God and will be completely without sin after the 1000 years.

Sounds like: Somebody told,.. my father bacame STAR after death.

_/\_
Chinu

 

[Poisonshady313]

I can't help it if others misunderstand their own doctrine, or avoid the logical conclusions of their own premises. You'll have to ask them about that.

Whose premises or doctrine dictate that the definition of sin is a violation of God's will?

Sin is a transgression of the law. Nothing misunderstood about that.

 

[thegospelkiss]

We have no idea if god exists let alone what its will is. EVERYTHING including what is written in the Bible about the deity is an assumption, not a fact.

But that's beside the point. Unicorns don't exist,but if I didn't describe it properly you'd recognize it. Sin, whether it exists of not, would have to be the violation of a god's (God's) will, whether he/she/it exists or not. Without a god (God) there can be no sin. Assuming the premise of a god (God), sin would be, by definition, anything which would violate said being's will.

 

[thegospelkiss]

Whose premises or doctrine dictate that the definition of sin is a violation of God's will?

Sin is a transgression of the law. Nothing misunderstood about that.

Whose law? Man's? That's crime. God's law - which we have to assume is His will, no? - is sin. Pretty straightforward actually.

 

[Jacksnyte]

A1. How is separation between God and men and women overcome?

Just a point I nit-pick on often: If God is Omnipresent, then there is no seperation between God and anything!

 

[Poisonshady313]

Whose law? Man's? That's crime. God's law - which we have to assume is His will, no? - is sin. Pretty straightforward actually.

Now you're very sloppily and carelessly tossing around the word "will" which makes it difficult for you to understand what you're talking about, let alone anyone else.

 

[thegospelkiss]

Now you're very sloppily and carelessly tossing around the word "will" which makes it difficult for you to understand what you're talking about, let alone anyone else.

OK - an expression of His will, rather than His will. Net effect the same.

 

[Poisonshady313]

OK - an expression of His will, rather than His will. Net effect the same.

Indeed. And that effect is completely ineffective.