Tomorrows_Child
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Pretty self explanatory title. I know there's a lot of the former on this site but any of the latter? And what does one group think of the other?
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And even within those segments, there are those that take a weak stance against the country (they're already here so we may as well deal with it even though its not ideal), these people work in the government.There are segments of Orthodox Judaism that oppose the very existence of Israel before their Messiah returns, for religious reasons.
I think that they run the gamut from misled or uninformed to spiteful and vindictive. The range of people who hold anti-Israel views is wide, so one cannot hold an opinion of the entire group, since (IMHO) there is very little that will necessarily unite all the members of the larger group.
No, the anti-Israel one.Which group are you speaking of? The pro-Israel group?
an anti-Israel Jew would be one who believes that Israeli occupation of Palestinian land is illegal (As international law supports)
and that jews should leave that land or at the very least give it back to the Palestinians.
Also, an anti-Israel Jew would be against the indiscriminate killing of innocent Palestinians by Israel, which is supported by the majority of the religious community in the country.
Something along those lines although there are many Jews who do hold the view of a "2 nation" solution.
*Honest question* Can you support this claim of "indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians" (obviously, not from a biased Palestinian or Israeli publication)? Also, do you mean "intentional" targeting of innocent civilians for the purpose of killing said civilians or no?indiscriminate killing of innocent Palestinians
an anti-Israel Jew would be one who believes that Israeli occupation of Palestinian land is illegal
Who thinks this that is a jew?
Is there such a thing?
Are not those called muslims?
*Honest question* Can you support this claim of "indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians" (obviously, not from a biased Palestinian or Israeli publication)? Also, do you mean "intentional" targeting of innocent civilians for the purpose of killing said civilians or no?
Who thinks this that is a jew?
Is there such a thing?
Are not those called muslims?
Inb4 "NK and Satmar are the only true Jews".
The situations are complex.
I've looked into this issue quite a bit since I first saw your OP, and I think you are dead wrong on this one. I think you used the term "indiscriminate" mistakenly, as it seems to make your claim in the OP absurd. Can you provide some evidence that Israel kills innocent civilians "indiscriminately" or "randomly without careful judgment"? Obviously, merely pointing to articles indicating that Israel has killed innocent civilians wouldn't be nearly enough, as my issue is only with the word "indiscriminate". So, you would have to point to evidence that they target innocent civilians randomly without consideration.Yes I can, there's video footage, there are articles, eye witness reports, UN reports, all sorts. You can google search it within seconds.
I mean, how could one argue that Israel kills innocent civilians randomly without consideration or judgment?
I think that Islam may wash your brainLet me clarify a bit, an anti-Israel Jew would be one who believes that Israeli occupation of Palestinian land is illegal (As international law supports) and that jews should leave that land or at the very least give it back to the Palestinians. Also, an anti-Israel Jew would be against the indiscriminate killing of innocent Palestinians by Israel, which is supported by the majority of the religious community in the country.
Something along those lines although there are many Jews who do hold the view of a "2 nation" solution.