What are Jewish views or feelings about people like Ruth (Goy) in the Bible

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The Bible has the story of Ruth who was a progenerator of David. She was one of us Goyim.

What are Jewish views or feelings about Goy like Ruth in the Bible?

Thank you for all answers.

 

[Tumah]

The Bible has the story of Ruth who was a progenerator of David. She was one of us Goyim.

What are Jewish views or feelings about Goy like Ruth in the Bible?

Thank you for all answers.

She was a convert. See Ruth 1:16.
What type of views or feelings are you looking for?

 

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She was a convert. See Ruth 1:16.
What type of views or feelings are you looking for?

Ruth 1:16 says that she followed Naomi anywhere that Naomi would go, not that she followed Moses or the God of Moses.

Are you saying that most religious Jews see her a having been a Jewish convert?

I'm just asking about general views/feelings.

 

[Tumah]

Ruth 1:16 says that she followed Naomi anywhere that Naomi would go, not that she followed Moses or the God of Moses.

Are you saying that most religious Jews see her a having been a Jewish convert?

I'm just asking about general views/feelings.

In that verse, my Book includes her declaration, "your nation is my nation, your G-d is my G-d". If that is not a declaration of conversion, I don't know what is.
But, yes, that is the view of Judaism as defined by the Talmud.

Either way, I don't really understand why we should feel a certain way about it. Aside from the practical ramifications (in terms of Jewish law), what difference should it make?

 

[Akivah]

The Bible has the story of Ruth who was a progenerator of David. She was one of us Goyim.

What are Jewish views or feelings about Goy like Ruth in the Bible?

Thank you for all answers.

It's a weird question. You're asking what the entire religions's feelings are about converts? A religion doesn't have feelings.

For me personally, Ruth is admirable. The teaching proves that converts are just as Jewish as born Jews.

 

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In that verse, my Book includes her declaration, "your nation is my nation, your G-d is my G-d". If that is not a declaration of conversion, I don't know what is.
But, yes, that is the view of Judaism as defined by the Talmud.

Either way, I don't really understand why we should feel a certain way about it. Aside from the practical ramifications (in terms of Jewish law), what difference should it make?

Thanks...are you saying that Jews view Jews & the Goyim as having no differences?

Peace to you,
Bro. (fellow believer in the God of Abraham) Noah

 

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It's a weird question. You're asking what the entire religions's feelings are about converts? A religion doesn't have feelings.

For me personally, Ruth is admirable. The teaching proves that converts are just as Jewish as born Jews.

I see...Thank you, Akivah.

 

[Tumah]

Thanks...are you saying that Jews view Jews & the Goyim as having no differences?

Peace to you,
Bro. (fellow believer in the God of Abraham) Noah

Of course there are differences otherwise we wouldn't need two different names. But why should that effect how we feel about other people?

 

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Of course there are differences otherwise we wouldn't need two different names. But why should that effect how we feel about other people?

I was just asking based on my understanding of the subject, the Jews & the Goyim.

 

[Tumah]

I was just asking based on my understanding of the subject, the Jews & the Goyim.

I don't know what your understanding is, but in the Jewish religion, you don't need to be Jewish to be righteous (unless you already are Jewish).

 

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If you are looking for the differences, then worrying specifically about Ruth doesn't seem necessary -- Judaism sees different groups as having different tasks and responsibilities. All can, by fulfilling their roles, achieve divine approbation, but the particulars are different.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

What are Jewish views or feelings about Goy like Ruth in the Bible?

Why should most or all Jews share a view about Ruth and why should that view extend to most or all converts or, for that matter, most or all goyim?

 

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If you are looking for the differences, then worrying specifically about Ruth doesn't seem necessary -- Judaism sees different groups as having different tasks and responsibilities. All can, by fulfilling their roles, achieve divine approbation, but the particulars are different.

Thanks.

 

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Why should most or all Jews share a view about Ruth and why should that view extend to most or all converts or, for that matter, most or all goyim?

Putting some words in my mouth here Jay.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Putting some words in my mouth here Jay.

Not intentionally.

 

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In that verse, my Book includes her declaration, "your nation is my nation, your G-d is my G-d". If that is not a declaration of conversion, I don't know what is.
But, yes, that is the view of Judaism as defined by the Talmud.

Either way, I don't really understand why we should feel a certain way about it. Aside from the practical ramifications (in terms of Jewish law), what difference should it make?

Thanks, Tumah. You have helped me to see that my favorite version of the Bible is different from the KJV.

 

[Tumah]

Thanks, Tumah. You have helped me to see that my favorite version of the Bible is different from the KJV.

I'm not sure how I did that, but glad to have been useful for somebody finally.

 

[RabbiO]

Thanks, Tumah. You have helped me to see that my favorite version of the Bible is different from the KJV.

I'm a little confused. Every Christian translation, with which I am familiar, translates this part of Ruth 1:16 עמך עמי ואלהיך אלהי

They don't leave it out. The only difference from Tumah's translation is translating עם as "people", which is perfectly acceptable, rather than "nation."

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The only difference from Tumah's translation is translating עם as "people", which is perfectly acceptable, rather than "nation."

And, in fact, translating עם as 'people' is found in Chabad's Complete Hewish Bible with Rashi Commentary and the JPS Bible Commentary: Ruth.

 

[Tumah]

They don't leave it out. The only difference from Tumah's translation is translating עם as "people", which is perfectly acceptable, rather than "nation."

And, in fact, translating עם as 'people' is found in Chabad's Complete Hewish Bible with Rashi Commentary and the JPS Bible Commentary: Ruth.

Is there a difference between a people and a nation?