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kai said:anyone born two thousand years ago would eat what they could get surely?
Jerrell said:No, Jesus ate fish, Jesus ate Lamb (at the passover), Jesus ate all the Kosher foods, he was a Jew and Jews ate meat.
ΩRôghênΩ said:Also note that there is nothing wrong with eating animals. eating meat is just as bad as eating plants. if we completely stopped eating animals we would see a massive overpopulation of animals in whte world, ther5efore combined with our foresting etc.; the destruction of plants massively. This would watrp the food chaion, which cannot be allowed. we should stick to what we eat now, and keep a balance i n what we eat.
I just want to tell you how much I admire this about you, Amy. I have thought and thought and thought about being a vegetarian. I just don't think I have the self-discipline to do it, as admirable as I find it.Maize said:As some of you know, I am a vegetarian and this is something that is very important in my life.
Well, the Bible does mention Jesus eating fish, so strictly speaking, I don't believe he was a vegetarian.But anyway, there are those who believe that Jesus was vegetarian and even if ihe wasn't, he would be one today because of how we treat the animals that end up on the dinner plate. That being said, if it was proven that Jesus was a vegetarian, should all Christians be vegetarians as well?
And here's something I'll bet you didn't know... Most people know that the Latter-day Saints have a health code that prohibits us from using alcohol, tobacco, tea and coffee. But this same health code urges us to eat meat "sparingly." That's what I try to do.Lastly, I know that other religions believe in not eating meat and I'm interested in hearing about those religions and there reasons for being vegetarian, or having a mostly vegetarian diet.
Seyorni said:Our food animals are bred, just like Ford pickup trucks are manufactured. If the general public stopped consuming pickup trucks there would be no overpopulation/glut -- Ford would stop making them.
If people stopped eating cows, pigs and chickens, farmers would stop breeding them and turn to something more lucrative.
yes there is an interesting moral question as to whether there would actually be any cows ,pigs,sheep etc if we didnt eat them?mattlevan said:Great point, Seyorni! When I talk about my choice to be vegetarian, I sometimes hear comments along this line: "We farmed the cows, so what does it matter if we slaughter them?" I'm glad not to have stumbled upon such a low argument here in the Religious Education Forums!
A question to debate that argument would be: Does the cow still have feeling? How is unnatural life any different from natural life? Would you consider the child conceived from injected semen any less of a human?
I thought that was quite hilarious, hehe.
By the way, Seyorni, fantastic avatar!
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yes but i am thinking there wouldnt be any domestic animals because their usefulness would have ceased years ago do you see what i mean, its just a thoughtSeyorni said:Moral question?
More an economic question, I should think!
If the market dried up I'm sure there would be a few enthusiasts who bred Guernseys or Rhode Island Reds as a hobby, but serious businessmen would quickly switch to whatever commodity the market demanded.
yes and domesticated animals will join the ranks of the endangered species , its just a thought that cows pigs sheep etc are only around today because they were needed by humans , i am not making a point here about vegetarians or carnivores just thinking out loudSeyorni said:Moral question?
More an economic question, I should think!
If the market dried up I'm sure there would be a few enthusiasts who bred Guernseys or Rhode Island Reds as a hobby, but serious businessmen would quickly switch to whatever commodity the market demanded.
gnostic said:Can vegetarians eat egg or cheese? Or fish?
If you can't eat fish, then Jesus is a vegetarian...however, I don't remember if he did eat them, where in the gospels that say he did?
Jerrell said:It is not as if back in Jesus' time that they were uncivilized folk unable of an organized economy. Jesus lived within the Roman Empire, Jews had a powerful economy, the Temple was very powerful and rich. The Jews as a whole did not have to go hunting except for to get an offering for God to take to the Temple.
Seyorni said:3. The idea that people in biblical times ate "what was available" is questionable. Perhaps the Romans did, but the Jews, and many other peoples, lived with strict dietary restrictions. The Essenes were a Jewish sect, and they were known to practice vegetarianism. Some speculate that Jesus was influenced by Essene teachings. Alas, any definitive knowledge of Jesus' life is lost in the mists of time.
GoldenDragon said:You mean like how dogs exist only because humans needed them?
Plus I don't know if Jesus was vegetarian but any time he ate anything mentioned in the Bible it was always fish and bread. Fish isn't usually considered meat,the kosher law treats fish as if its not meat and in the Catholic faith during Lent we can't eat meat on Fridays but we can eat fish.Why is fish not considered meat in some cultures ? But anyway I assume Jesus would have ate lamb during the Passover feast being he was a pious Jew. Maybe he was sort of semi-vegetarian if that's possible..?
Fresh, maybe not. Bet you could get anything you wanted dried though.spacemonkey said:But they lacked proper refrigeration and other preserving technologies like canning, so fresh fruits and vegtables would not be available all the time.