Video Discussion: Why Do Some White Liberals Have Low Expectations of Black People?

[Stanyon]

That is, do they just have lower expectations of certain people simply because of the colour of their skin? this video seems to show that yes, some white liberals actually do. The funny thing is is that in some political discussions here at RF these very same talking points have come up, enjoy!

 

[Jeremiahcp]

What do you have against black people?

 

[suncowiam]

That is, do they just have lower expectations of certain people simply because of the colour of their skin? this video seems to show that yes, some white liberals actually do. The funny thing is is that in some political discussions here at RF these very same talking points have come up, enjoy!

Try again:

Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.

There are real scenarios where folks in poverty cannot obtain a a proper ID. It is not due to race but due to income level. Personally, I find it deceiving when one correlates to race. It's really correlated to income level because that is the root cause. As your video demonstrated, there are black people that can easily obtain IDs.

Your video does show ignorance of those particular white liberals because they did not know the true reasoning. But at the same time, it was disingenuous as it did not present why liberals are against voting id requirements.

A middle ground would be conservatives and liberals agree to make it a completely free and easy process for all citizens to obtain IDs.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Try again:

Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.

There are real scenarios where folks in poverty cannot obtain a a proper ID. It is not due to race but due to income level. Personally, I find it deceiving when one correlates to race. It's really correlated to income level because that is the root cause. As your video demonstrated, there are black people that can easily obtain IDs.

Your video does show ignorance of those particular white liberals because they did not know the true reasoning. But at the same time, it was disingenuous as it did not present why liberals are against voting id requirements.

A middle ground would be conservatives and liberals agree to make it a completely free and easy process for all citizens to obtain IDs.

If it has ties to income, it has ties to race.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

We have long known that economic inequality results in social inequality, it is also just plain common sense. Pickup a book and read.

 

[Quetzal]

Racism is not limited to white liberals, by the way. But given your track record on discussions, I am not surprised.

 

[Revoltingest]

Racism is not limited to white liberals, by the way. But given your track record on discussions, I am not surprised.

There's a difference between liberal & conservative racism.
The former is most holier than thou about it, & it is addressed
far far less often.
But is the OP's question really a question, or a rhetorical
device to criticize liberals as hypocrites?

 

[Quetzal]

There's a difference between liberal & conservative racism.
The former is most holier than thou about it, & it is addressed
far far less often.
But is the OP's question really a question, or a rhetorical
device to criticize liberals as hypocrites?

Either way we are addressing generalizations. In order for generalizations to be accurate we need reliable, repeatable data. We have none here.

 

[Revoltingest]

Either way we are addressing generalizations. In order for generalizations to be accurate we need reliable, repeatable data. We have none here.

I don't see requests for extensive data regarding accusations of "white privilege".
They seem to arise only when challenging Americastanian modern liberal notions.

 

[suncowiam]

If it has ties to income, it has ties to race.

So if it has ties to race, then do we simply assume a certain race produces high income and another race produces low income?

Is this what you're suggesting to do?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

So if it has ties to race, then do we simply assume a certain race produces high income and another race produces low income?

Is this what you're suggesting to do?

The information is already out there to answer that question. Racial inequality is something we actually know something about. I suggest you start looking things up instead of making things up.

 

[Fool]

That is, do they just have lower expectations of certain people simply because of the colour of their skin? this video seems to show that yes, some white liberals actually do. The funny thing is is that in some political discussions here at RF these very same talking points have come up, enjoy!

i thought of hispanics, latinos, when it mentioned id laws. strange

 

[suncowiam]

The information is already out there to answer that question. Racial inequality is something we actually know something about. I suggest you start looking things up instead of making things up.

Why are you so defensive?

What did I make up that you are so defiant about? That it's not about race?

Let's revisit the subject again about voting IDs because you are generalizing the whole subject. The video is clear that there is population of blacks that can easily obtain IDs, know where the DMV is, have access to the internet and believe that white liberals are ignorant for believing otherwise. So how do you resolve this if we simply base it on racial inequality? Tell me why those blacks are in disagreement with the whites that blacks have it worse in this scenario?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Why are you so defensive?

What did I make up that you are so defiant about? That it's not about race?

Let's revisit the subject again about voting IDs because you are generalizing the whole subject. The video is clear that there is population of blacks that can easily obtain IDs, know where the DMV is, have access to the internet and believe that white liberals are ignorant for believing otherwise. So how do you resolve this if we simply base it on racial inequality? Tell me why those blacks are in disagreement with the whites that blacks have it worse in this scenario?

LOL the video. . . . omg. Whatever you can do to stay ignorant, right?

 

[suncowiam]

LOL the video. . . . omg. Whatever you can do to stay ignorant, right?

Yes. Obviously I'm the one being ignorant.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Yes. Obviously I'm the one being ignorant.

Obviously.

 

[Stevicus]

That is, do they just have lower expectations of certain people simply because of the colour of their skin? this video seems to show that yes, some white liberals actually do. The funny thing is is that in some political discussions here at RF these very same talking points have come up, enjoy!

The dirty little secret that people try to avoid on issues like this is that, in reality, there's very little difference between your typical conservative and liberal when it comes to a number of issues. How could there be? They're raised with the same ideas, same culture, same media, same educational institutions, same religion, same politics, same values (more or less).

This is one of the drawbacks of political correctness, in my opinion. The liberals shown in the video don't really know why they believe what they believe, because no one ever taught them. All they're taught is what they're supposed to say (or not supposed to say) in any given situation.

 

[metis]

That is, do they just have lower expectations of certain people simply because of the colour of their skin?

Yes, and some self-proclaimed "conservatives" are racist.