Unity of Humanity

[Reuben Muhammad]

Greetings, All.

UNITY could be described as "the harmonious coordination/cooperation of distinct entities with their respective differences, to accomplish a common goal for the benefit of all", whereas, UNIFORMITY could be described as the effort to establish sameness in appearance, shape, function, purpose, expression, belief, etc.

What would you say is the Key to facilitating the "Unity of Humanity"?

Do you think that the root of the problem of DISUNITY (fear, envy, strife, etc.) among the Human Family is the "illusion of Separateness" from the Creator?

 

[Sunstone]

I think humans are instinctively tribal and territorial. That does not mean they cannot work around their instincts, but I think it does mean that their default position is tribal and territorial and any work around will require effort.

 

[Reuben Muhammad]

Thank You...

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I side with Sunstone here, though on a philosophical level, discord really has nothing to do with relation to deity. It has to do with the human inability to see everything working together. It's why we seek simple solutions like gods and simple social lives like small tribes.

 

[Valjean]

As Sunstone said. The "root of the problem of DISUNITY" is a hard-wired, tribal psychology rooted in a couple million years of living in small, competitive bands of hunter-gatherers.

You want unity? Find a common enemy.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Do you think that the root of the problem of DISUNITY (fear, envy, strife, etc.) among the Human Family is the "illusion of Separateness" from the Creator?

Not even in the slightest.

 

[Quintessence]

Seems to me there's more to it than "tribal psychology." Seems to me it is as simple as people not having common goals in the first place, coupled with the foolishness of assuming that what you think is of benefit for all will magically be agreed upon by everyone. It won't be. Great way to create disunity is to demand your way be everyone's way.

 

[Reuben Muhammad]

Interesting perspectives...

Thank You, All.

 

[Reuben Muhammad]

It appears that the "illusion of Separateness" is more pervasive...and persistent...than many realize.

 

[chinu]

Greetings, All.

UNITY could be described as "the harmonious coordination/cooperation of distinct entities with their respective differences, to accomplish a common goal for the benefit of all", whereas, UNIFORMITY could be described as the effort to establish sameness in appearance, shape, function, purpose, expression, belief, etc.

OK.

What would you say is the Key to facilitating the "Unity of Humanity"?

Key to facilitate the unity of humanity on this earth is one common belief in creator, but it is almost impossible on this earth, because if it would have been possible, than there would have been no importance of God.

Why God is important ?
Because unity is impossible on this earth.

God/Religion itself is the another name of unity, or religion means re-union with from where we all started this journey of life in the begaining, or the nick name is God.

Do you think that the root of the problem of DISUNITY (fear, envy, strife, etc.) among the Human Family is the "illusion of Separateness" from the Creator?

Of course, Yes

 

[Reuben Muhammad]

Key to facilitate the unity of humanity on this earth is one common belief in creator, but it is almost impossible on this earth...

Why God is important ?
Because unity is impossible on this earth.

Is not the Human Body composed of CELLS, ORGANS and SYSTEMS of different shapes, sizes and functions...all working in UNITY for the Life of the Person?

What is the UNITING PRINCIPLE that keeps THEM "working together", without which, the Body begins to "decompose", or "disintegrate"?

If this applies to the HUMAN BODY, could it also apply - on a grander scale - to the BODY of HUMANITY?

 

[chinu]

Is not the Human Body composed of CELLS, ORGANS and SYSTEMS of different shapes, sizes and functions...all working in UNITY for the Life of the Person?

What is the UNITING PRINCIPLE that keeps THEM "working together", without which, the Body begins to "decompose", or "disintegrate"?

DESIRE towards one thing keeps them working together.

If this applies to the HUMAN BODY, could it also apply - on a grander scale - to the BODY of HUMANITY?

Of course, if all people of this world would have one common desire, than it can work. But its impossible to create a one common desire for the body of humanity.

Why its impossible ? Because, the one who will create such a desire cannot work together with rest of the people, because his/her desire is to create the desire for others, rather than following that desire. And when the creator of such a desire seems to breaking the rules, than how can rest of the people follow ?

I hope you are understanding my point, Reuben.

 

[YmirGF]

You want unity? Find a common enemy.

Bingo. Big gray space aliens? Yep, we would all band together to defeat their attacks on us. Then once the threat was neutralized we would merrily go back to killing each other again.

 

[chinu]

Bingo. Big gray space aliens? Yep, we would all band together to defeat their attacks on us. Then once the threat was neutralized we would merrily go back to killing each other again.

There's no need to go so far, if they attacked with the bullets made of GOLD, humans will even start fighting with their family members to get one.

 

[YmirGF]

There's no need to go so far, if they attacked with the bullets made of GOLD, humans will even start fighting with their family members to get one.

Hehe. Only at first. If the war went on for a long time, the price of gold would tank as the metal became more plentiful. :drool:

 

[chinu]

Hehe. Only at first. If the war went on for a long time, the price of gold would tank as the metal became more plentiful. :drool:

Hah.. Unity of Humanity, What a desire of someone

 

[Kilgore Trout]

It appears that the "illusion of Separateness" is more pervasive...and persistent...than many realize.

There's definitely an illusion that's pervasive and persistent, but that ain't it.

 

[Valjean]

DESIRE towards one thing keeps them working together.

Cells are altruistic or, at least, unconcerned with their individual existence. The liver does not battle the pancreas.

Human altruism or moral consideration is limited to 20, 50, maybe 100 other individuals. This has become biologically hard-wired into our brains by a million years of tribal existence. Extending this to larger groups requires education, it's not natural.

Of course, if all people of this world would have one common desire, than it can work. But its impossible to create a one common desire for the body of humanity.

Why its impossible ? Because, the one who will create such a desire cannot work together with rest of the people, because his/her desire is to create the desire for others, rather than following that desire. And when the creator of such a desire seems to breaking the rules, than how can rest of the people follow ?

This is why I mentioned a common enemy. Our natural tribalism is hierarchical. Competing bands will co-operate if confronted by a common threat.


I find the rise of the internet and web linked technologies and institutions an interesting development.
Everywhere you look people are voluntarily connecting to a world wide web. First it was desktop PCs. Now people carry access nodes in their pockets. Some seem to spend half their lives in cyberspace.
Soon it will be smart glasses, then neural implants and USB ports screwed into your head.

Could all this be the development of a new, unified web of humanity, a hive mind?
Are we all "assimilating" ourselves?. Is resistance indeed futile?

 

[Straw Dog]

Hello Reuban,

Greetings, All.

UNITY could be described as "the harmonious coordination/cooperation of distinct entities with their respective differences, to accomplish a common goal for the benefit of all", whereas, UNIFORMITY could be described as the effort to establish sameness in appearance, shape, function, purpose, expression, belief, etc.

What would you say is the Key to facilitating the "Unity of Humanity"?

Do you think that the root of the problem of DISUNITY (fear, envy, strife, etc.) among the Human Family is the "illusion of Separateness" from the Creator?

What do you mean by "humanity"? Are you referring to it as a natural virtue or in reference to us as an entire species?

As for disunity, I would say it has more to do with following bad cultural map markers off cliffsides. This happens for a lot of different reasons with similar causes. It's kind of a matter of trial and error as we refine our methods for intelligent living. Some disunity can spur further positive transformation, though, so it's not all bad.