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Ukraine has become a dictatorship, it's official

Laniakea

Not of this world
No, when necessary I back up my claims. When you refuse to debate properly you relieve others of that duty.

It's necessary when you make a claim. That's what proper debating is.

All that you have to do is to quit using insults so often when you make demands.

Now you're projecting again and making things personal. Not a proper debate technique.

My offer was more than reasonable considering your past behavior.

You offer of what, exactly?

Do you mean that I was in error to expect you to debate properly and politely? If you insist.

Quit playing the victim card when you can't answer a question. If you have evidence, show it. If you don't, then playing victim and claiming someone wasn't "polite" to you when they asked you to cite your evidence is only telling others that you've lost the debate and believe the only way to save face is to personally attack whoever asks you to back up your claim.
Your debate technique is not working.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It's necessary when you make a claim. That's what proper debating is.
Yes, but if the other person is not following the rules then that releases the other person from following those same rules. As I have poinnted out when you are not following the rules of debate I have pointed out that a third person could ask for evidence. Also if a third person provides evidence I cannot stop him.
Now you're projecting again and making things personal. Not a proper debate technique.

No, that is not true. In the last case before you even asked me to provide evidence you made it personal by claiming that I made things up. That actually put the burden of proof upon you when you made that claim. That was where you released me from the burden of proof.
You offer of what, exactly?
When you mess up I almost always offer you a chance to atone for your sins. And then I would give you the evidence that you demand, but you never have done that..
Quit playing the victim card when you can't answer a question. If you have evidence, show it. If you don't, then playing victim and claiming someone wasn't "polite" to you when they asked you to cite your evidence is only telling others that you've lost the debate and believe the only way to save face is to personally attack whoever asks you to back up your claim.
Your debate technique is not working.
I am not playing the victim card. I am just saying that if you cannot debate following the rules of proper debate then I have no need to provide you with evidence. You seem to ignore when I provide you with evidence so it really does not matter if I did now does it?
 

lukethethird

unknown member
Gee, I wonder if there's a difference between suspending elections during wartime and suspending elections during a LITERAL INVASION THAT YOU ARE SUFFERING.

If you really want democracy to be restored in Ukraine, put the blame where it actually belongs: On Russia. Demand they stop their invasion and retreat over their own borders. Stop spreading fascist propaganda.
There are no elections in Ukraine due to a border dispute.
 

geomagnetism

New Member
I'm sorry to say any country say russia is invasion country which is attacking ukraine.
even same communist country china and old ww2 ally country person's say to you who like you such a italy person will say same thing.(not blaming)
I hope you one day you will notice Russia is what's to do like old Japanese did like do.
now Russia country is doing like similar old fascist.
(but i can't aceept all(some) american's saying about atomic bombs fallen is right.)
also Russia guys did same thing Holodomor on ukraine(well this was an enitre soviet province starving but.)
also i didn't fall from upstairs. i just playing (enjoying)there
 
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Laniakea

Not of this world
When you mess up I almost always offer you a chance to atone for your sins. And then I would give you the evidence that you demand, but you never have done that..
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I don't recall asking you to be my saviour.

I am not playing the victim card. I am just saying that if you cannot debate following the rules of proper debate then I have no need to provide you with evidence. You seem to ignore when I provide you with evidence so it really does not matter if I did now does it?

Now you're not following the rules of proper debate. Claiming the role of referee in a debate is simply being manipulative.
Tell ya what, put me on ignore if you don't like my posts. Have you ever considered that? Sure beats whining about me all the time, unless that's what you are seeking to do.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
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I don't recall asking you to be my saviour.

It is service that I provide for free. You are welcome.
Now you're not following the rules of proper debate. Claiming the role of referee in a debate is simply being manipulative.
Tell ya what, put me on ignore if you don't like my posts. Have you ever considered that? Sure beats whining about me all the time, unless that's what you are seeking to do.
I can do that because I do repeatedly give you chances. I even show you how to support claims as I did yesterday. But until you at least try to change you have relieved me of any duty to give you evidence. It can never be a one way game where I am the only one following the rules.

And correcting you is a thankless task, but it is not "whining". In fact, to be honest it is a bit enjoyable for me so it definitely is not whining.
 
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