Ukraine has become a dictatorship, it's official

[Estro Felino]

The presidential elections were scheduled for March 31st, but they will not be held.
And please, spare me the martial law thing: a wartime can even last twenty years. That would make twenty years of martial law.
And by the way, martial law is itself, dictatorship, because there is no democratic vote.

Look at Russia. They are at war, but they still held elections.

 

[Stevicus]

The presidential elections were scheduled for March 31st, but they will not be held.
And please, spare me the martial law thing: a wartime can even last twenty years. That would make twenty years of martial law.
And by the way, martial law is itself, dictatorship, because there is no democratic vote.

Look at Russia. They are at war, but they still held elections.

The U.S. still held elections even during the Civil War.

 

[Estro Felino]

The U.S. still held elections even during the Civil War.

Also during WW2. Eisenhower was the guy who signed the armistice with us, he became president.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Gee, I wonder if there's a difference between suspending elections during wartime and suspending elections during a LITERAL INVASION THAT YOU ARE SUFFERING.

If you really want democracy to be restored in Ukraine, put the blame where it actually belongs: On Russia. Demand they stop their invasion and retreat over their own borders. Stop spreading fascist propaganda.

 

[Estro Felino]

Gee, I wonder if there's a difference between suspending elections during wartime and suspending elections during a LITERAL INVASION THAT YOU ARE SUFFERING.

If you really want democracy to be restored in Ukraine, put the blame where it actually belongs: On Russia. Demand they stop their invasion and retreat over their own borders. Stop spreading fascist propaganda.

For the record: during WW2 we were also invaded by the allies, we made peace with them, and then we held new elections.

 

[Stevicus]

Also during WW2. Eisenhower was the guy who signed the armistice with us, he became president.

Well, yes, in 1952, he won the election (which was also held during time of war).

 

[Revoltingest]

The presidential elections were scheduled for March 31st, but they will not be held.
And please, spare me the martial law thing: a wartime can even last twenty years. That would make twenty years of martial law.
And by the way, martial law is itself, dictatorship, because there is no democratic vote.

Look at Russia. They are at war, but they still held elections.

You say it's "official".
Have a press release from Ukraine that you can link?

 

[Stevicus]

For the record: during WW2 we were also invaded by the allies, we made peace with them, and then we held new elections.

Didn't Mussolini get voted out in 1943 by his own party? After that, the new leader of Italy surrendered.

 

[Revoltingest]

For the record: during WW2 we were also invaded by the allies...

Because Italy sided with Hitler.

....we made peace with them....

Because you surrendered, facing
the fact that Hitler was losing.
This is not something for which
Italy should get Brownie points.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The presidential elections were scheduled for March 31st, but they will not be held.
And please, spare me the martial law thing: a wartime can even last twenty years. That would make twenty years of martial law.
And by the way, martial law is itself, dictatorship, because there is no democratic vote.

Look at Russia. They are at war, but they still held elections.

Yes, we understand your love for strongmen. Probably why you like Trump -- you have that in common.

 

[Estro Felino]

Didn't Mussolini get voted out in 1943 by his own party? After that, the new leader of Italy surrendered.

Officially, because all Italians (none excluded) were sick and tired of the war.
So Fascists voted out Mussolini, so the king would nominate another Prime Minister. Who said "Fascism is over. War continues".

Underground, behind the scenes: Mussolini was in on it. He wanted to escape from the Nazis' rage and vengeance, by pretending he was victim of his fellow fascists. The king arrested him (I mean...in a ski resort hotel...a ski resort hotel in Abruzzo doesn't sound like "prison")...

 

[Estro Felino]

Because Italy sided with Hitler.

Because you surrendered,

...which is what Ukraine should do. Make peace with the Russians.

facing
the fact that Hitler was losing.
This is not something for which
Italy should get Brownie points.

Considering what the Americans did in Japan...
yes, we consider ourselves the smart ones.

 

[Secret Chief]

The presidential elections were scheduled for March 31st, but they will not be held.
And please, spare me the martial law thing: a wartime can even last twenty years. That would make twenty years of martial law.
And by the way, martial law is itself, dictatorship, because there is no democratic vote.

Look at Russia. They are at war, but they still held elections.

Are you a sockpuppet of Putin?

 

[Estro Felino]

Are you a sockpuppet of Putin?

No, I am his mistress.

Come on...please...

 

[Secret Chief]

No, I am his mistress.

Come on...please...

Odd sexual references and winking faces don't really help. Only fools, fascists and the deluded think Russia just held a free and fair democratic election.

 

[Stevicus]

Officially, because all Italians (none excluded) were sick and tired of the war.
So Fascists voted out Mussolini, so the king would nominate another Prime Minister. Who said "Fascism is over. War continues".

Underground, behind the scenes: Mussolini was in on it. He wanted to escape from the Nazis' rage and vengeance, by pretending he was victim of his fellow fascists. The king arrested him (I mean...in a ski resort hotel...a ski resort hotel in Abruzzo doesn't sound like "prison")...

The Nazis were able to send commandos to rescue Mussolini and reinstall him as a puppet dictator in northern Italy, while the fighting continued from 1943 until nearly the end of the war in 1945. There may have been a few Italians who still supported Mussolini, but he had to be propped up by Hitler's waning military might. Italy became a battleground between Germany and the Western Allies. The Italians were treated better by their enemies than by their friends. The Italians welcomed the Allied armies as liberators.

 

[Estro Felino]

The Nazis were able to send commandos to rescue Mussolini and reinstall him as a puppet dictator in northern Italy, while the fighting continued from 1943 until nearly the end of the war in 1945. There may have been a few Italians who still supported Mussolini, but he had to be propped up by Hitler's waning military might. Italy became a battleground between Germany and the Western Allies. The Italians were treated better by their enemies than by their friends. The Italians welcomed the Allied armies as liberators.

I am from the South. To us, war ended in 1943. Because Americans managed to conquer all the South, including Naples.
Despite Nazis' attempt to reconquer Sicily back.
By the by, my grandparents kept a missile fired by the Nazis in the harbor, and I still have it.
Of course it's empty. It's an interesting piece of history.

 

[Estro Felino]

Odd sexual references and winking faces don't really help. Only fools, fascists and the deluded think Russia just held a free and fair democratic election.

Really? Maybe in your country there's such a narrative.
In other countries they say that Russians are all wicked and they elected another wicked man, Putin, who is like them.

So they believe they were free and fair democratic elections.

 

[Revoltingest]

...which is what Ukraine should do. Make peace with the Russians.

Ukraine has other ideas.
Unlike Italy, there's no love for Putin,
or to become under his boot.

Considering what the Americans did in Japan...
yes, we consider ourselves the smart ones.

Japan attacked USA.
USA ended that war ASAP, thereby avoiding
even more deaths.
Italy sided with Hitler, who was the aggressor.
Italy went along with his plan to exterminate
millions of people, & conquer the continent.
Italy was (perhaps still is) ready to assist any
predatory misanthrope.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Odd sexual references and winking faces don't really help. Only fools, fascists and the deluded think Russia just held a free and fair democratic election.

Are you implying that it is cheating to get rid of one's opponents? But they just fell down the stairs.