meghanwaterlillies
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I believe you cant see Him but he is resurrected and He Jesus is God. You have to worship in spirit and truth and this son of God or nephilim **** I'm gonna end
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Two Kinds of Salvation
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meghanwaterlillies
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meghanwaterlillies
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that means no one gets spiritual or figurative lucrative by dishing out death or "spiritual cruxification"
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> believed us my sister
for we already knew that he was resurrected and sitteth at the right of the father
and
we believed
christjesus is not an angel nor nephelim
for he is the only begotten son of god
our lord and saviour
yeah christjesus is god
b'cuz he is the only begotten son of god
but he is not the father almighty nor the holy spirit
perhaps you have known this before
and
this verse shall tell you some things
which where you can put those belief of yours
as it is written
:read:
Matthew 20:17
When Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem, he took the twelve apostles aside and said to them privately,
18 "We're going to Jerusalem. There the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and scribes. They will condemn him to death
19 and hand him over to foreigners. They will make fun of him, whip him, and crucify him. But on the third day he will be brought back to life."
20 Then the mother of Zebedee's sons came to Jesus with her two sons. She bowed down in front of him to ask him for a favor.
21 "What do you want?" he asked her. She said to him, "Promise that one of my sons will sit at your right and the other at your left in your kingdom."
22 Jesus replied, "You don't realize what you're asking. Can you drink the cup that I'm going to drink?" "We can," they told him.
23 Jesus said to them, "You will drink my cup. But I don't have the authority to grant you a seat at my right or left. My Father has already prepared these positions for certain people."
24 When the other ten apostles heard about this, they were irritated with the two brothers.
25 Jesus called the apostles and said, "You know that the rulers of nations have absolute power over people and their officials have absolute authority over people.
26 But that's not the way it's going to be among you. Whoever wants to become great among you will be your servant.
27 Whoever wants to be most important among you will be your slave.
28 It's the same way with the Son of Man. He didn't come so that others could serve him. He came to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many people."
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godbless
unto all always
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meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
this simple its an unfounded spy game ...
sons of god were a type of way for people to beguile another, nephilim too which was a spy game.
Now in the world of technology it's easy to beguile people. You don't need to play sister/brother games either because of the wave of things I wouldn't want it be that way.
Out fear people ; then incorporated islam because at least some them think it's polytheistic to claim Jesus as god when their worried pagans sons of God snatch, thats what Jesus did to overcome.
So then he is the son of man lord of the Sabbath.
Then they played tribal games. Cutl-ture.. Which fine you are. So be it.
The part is forgiveness.
Jesus can be the son of God too, he was just referring to how badly that would stain them, when they were going to try to kill him anyways.
It became a sort of two bit system that had nothing to do with forgiveness.
sons of god were a type of way for people to beguile another, nephilim too which was a spy game.
Now in the world of technology it's easy to beguile people. You don't need to play sister/brother games either because of the wave of things I wouldn't want it be that way.
Out fear people ; then incorporated islam because at least some them think it's polytheistic to claim Jesus as god when their worried pagans sons of God snatch, thats what Jesus did to overcome.
So then he is the son of man lord of the Sabbath.
Then they played tribal games. Cutl-ture.. Which fine you are. So be it.
The part is forgiveness.
Jesus can be the son of God too, he was just referring to how badly that would stain them, when they were going to try to kill him anyways.
It became a sort of two bit system that had nothing to do with forgiveness.
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meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
I don't know for sure but What the canaanites suffered is that the men (wherever they got it from used their position to of love and command, to convience their lovers to kill or go after someone or sacrifice their children. And of course their relationship isn't very true.. they and also by people that claimed to be. Later people did it, including men, willing in pop culture. Which also means they turned of one for another. Which happened in early areas even in Judaism which I can kinda see the Abraham story because if I cant forgive the fact about that; then Jesus I can even though he's alive. or I cant say our father who art in heaven ............be name.. forgive us of ours...
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> i wasn't telling you this
as my sister in our group nor anything else
but you have just remind me of someone before
who played games with us but in the end she learned the truth
now
your belief seems to be focusing on somethin such as those
who claimed that grace is all you need
when you cant even find somethin to focus on the things that could gave mercy
where we need to work out our faith unto what is good and cannot lie
to obtain mercy then after that unconditional love
not only for humans but most especially to god
coz
somethin could twist your thoughts
and somehow it will push you to do things unexpectedly
in order to loss your own salvation
also
your clinging to compose forgiveness
which is very different from those people who are in need of forgiveness coz they truly admit that they do sins
that's why
you seems to be someone who were never become a part
of those many things
such as
what they called the true repentance for
the true worshipper
as they say
you should learn to forgive yourself first before you could learn the word forgiveness
meaning
if you dont see your self as someone
who dont commit any sins then
your only just fooling yourself
coz
that is one of the deceitfulness of
the evil one
who wants to show you that
your not sinning anymore but in the end
you will learn that your been deceived
and
you will learn that
its all to late for you to change all that
by the way
do you believe in trinity
... . just askin
if we may say so
coz we already knew
that we cant force someone to believe unto something that is unexpected . ...
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
as my sister in our group nor anything else
but you have just remind me of someone before
who played games with us but in the end she learned the truth
now
your belief seems to be focusing on somethin such as those
who claimed that grace is all you need
when you cant even find somethin to focus on the things that could gave mercy
where we need to work out our faith unto what is good and cannot lie
to obtain mercy then after that unconditional love
not only for humans but most especially to god
coz
somethin could twist your thoughts
and somehow it will push you to do things unexpectedly
in order to loss your own salvation
also
your clinging to compose forgiveness
which is very different from those people who are in need of forgiveness coz they truly admit that they do sins
that's why
you seems to be someone who were never become a part
of those many things
such as
what they called the true repentance for
the true worshipper
as they say
you should learn to forgive yourself first before you could learn the word forgiveness
meaning
if you dont see your self as someone
who dont commit any sins then
your only just fooling yourself
coz
that is one of the deceitfulness of
the evil one
who wants to show you that
your not sinning anymore but in the end
you will learn that your been deceived
and
you will learn that
its all to late for you to change all that
by the way
do you believe in trinity
... . just askin
if we may say so
coz we already knew
that we cant force someone to believe unto something that is unexpected . ...
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
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ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> we almost forgot
theres no unexpected things in trinity
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
theres no unexpected things in trinity
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> its getting late now and
so much traffic
perhaps we should continue
tommorow
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
so much traffic
perhaps we should continue
tommorow
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
Why you don't even need.. TO DO THIS>>>
I knew that you were going to get all up and arms
you have just reminded me of someone before...
who played games with us but in the end she learned the truth
Megan: I never play games.. I've seen the obvious
I know when someone for the most part are abusing girls
I have seen to much of that..
I bet you do love something..
What's your name where you from....
You don't have the option to get up set and say oh your only the grace person ur a sinnerette, because right now I just said that it's obvious in todays day..
as for the trinity part oh well...............................................................
1. claimed that grace is all you need; you seem to think that WHY..
2. where we need to work out our faith unto what is good and cannot lie really did that just give you a hard on????...
Because I don't think you get it...
That is just mean.................
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> no we are not up set nor anything
its just we've seen somethin simultaneously and then it happends that you've put those words
play and game unto your post
therefore
its not everyone's fault
and again
you really dont know us
coz all the words that are written in our post came from my brethren and my fellows and
not only base unto my own thinkin
meaning
its not a product of a
one human thinkin only
also
we have so much experienced regarding unto some people
who says grace is all we need
when the grace that some of those people found were coming only from man
and not from god
who played their words and abuses women and children and thats how they played their game
for they abused those who are weak
just for their own personal gain
thats why
we've said those words unto you to tell you the truth
so that you may be aware of that
also again
as they say
you should learn to forgive yourself first before you could learn the word forgiveness
meaning
if you dont see your self as someone
who dont commit any sins then
your only just fooling yourself
coz
that is one of the deceitfulness of
the evil one
who wants to show you that
your not sinning anymore but in the end
you will learn that your been deceived
and
you will learn that
its all to late for you to change all that
as we've expected
somethin like this will happen
as it is obvious that
you will misinterpret our words
yeah for most most people
who knows how to forgive
knows
everybody have sin
but it depends on its magnitude
so we forgive you
becaused thats how it works
unto what is good and cannot lie
and that is not mean nor evil
by the way
you really dont have that kind of thinkin
who knows somethin about
the evil one who can twist your thoughts unexpectedly
why and how (if you will probably ask somethin again then i shall answer it truthfully)
Because I ~;> yes its me
and this is my sign remember it and
as what i've said
you really dont have that kind of thinkin
who knows somethin about
the evil one who can twist your thoughts unexpectedly
Because i don't think you get it
so there's really no need to get up set
but we dont know
if it is easy for you to take it
nor its hard for you to swallow it
for in the end its all about your choice not ours
if i may say so
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
its just we've seen somethin simultaneously and then it happends that you've put those words
play and game unto your post
therefore
its not everyone's fault
and again
you really dont know us
coz all the words that are written in our post came from my brethren and my fellows and
not only base unto my own thinkin
meaning
its not a product of a
one human thinkin only
also
we have so much experienced regarding unto some people
who says grace is all we need
when the grace that some of those people found were coming only from man
and not from god
who played their words and abuses women and children and thats how they played their game
for they abused those who are weak
just for their own personal gain
thats why
we've said those words unto you to tell you the truth
so that you may be aware of that
also again
as they say
you should learn to forgive yourself first before you could learn the word forgiveness
meaning
if you dont see your self as someone
who dont commit any sins then
your only just fooling yourself
coz
that is one of the deceitfulness of
the evil one
who wants to show you that
your not sinning anymore but in the end
you will learn that your been deceived
and
you will learn that
its all to late for you to change all that
as we've expected
somethin like this will happen
as it is obvious that
you will misinterpret our words
yeah for most most people
who knows how to forgive
knows
everybody have sin
but it depends on its magnitude
so we forgive you
becaused thats how it works
unto what is good and cannot lie
and that is not mean nor evil
by the way
you really dont have that kind of thinkin
who knows somethin about
the evil one who can twist your thoughts unexpectedly
why and how (if you will probably ask somethin again then i shall answer it truthfully)
Because I ~;> yes its me
and this is my sign remember it and
as what i've said
you really dont have that kind of thinkin
who knows somethin about
the evil one who can twist your thoughts unexpectedly
Because i don't think you get it
so there's really no need to get up set
but we dont know
if it is easy for you to take it
nor its hard for you to swallow it
for in the end its all about your choice not ours
if i may say so
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
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meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
Look I do not want to go outside the information I gave at first..
Or that I care to even do so like no attack on you.
The way you jump to that conclusion after what I said shows poor comparison at that..
That its alittle like poor science...... I have made an observation to exactly what I have seen in the past and it messed with people.. Not that it is your prerogative.. Your first responds is ummm SIN yes sin that must be it.. If you think you don't have it, or have it have it in your life than your fooling yourself...And then a remark about a girl who suffered the same observation .. I don't spy it's obvious sometimes but like you can too state the obvious... I made mention as to an observation that I've seen in the past which wasn't at all done in good conscience. Not saying that you are doing so but your obviously well aware of that because it flagged your response, which means in some cases it can be considered a dishonest move; My observation was only that; Even though it had happen to various groups of honest people and even old latter days. That it became a spying ground where people got messed with and because someone had the resources to do it.
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
And I don't like it when they use this kind of resource to convince people of untruthful things lead them to act on people..
And then pull the God card at the end.. (not saying that you do but I can clearly trace a history in any religion that shows that sometimes people do that)
The God that didn't do those things, God Bless all..
And then pull the God card at the end.. (not saying that you do but I can clearly trace a history in any religion that shows that sometimes people do that)
The God that didn't do those things, God Bless all..
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ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> wrong
your observation
was base on your own opinion
and
theres nothing scientific facts
nor spiritual facts base on the bible itself
that can be consired a reliable source unto your own opinion
and your not reading
as what we've said before
theres no point to get up set nor anything
its just we've seen somethin simultaneously and then it happends that you've put those words
play and game unto your post
therefore
its not everyone's fault
thats why it flagged our response
unlike how your responsed unto our post
because it flagged your response, which means in some cases it can be considered a dishonest move
such as
it is obvious that
you will misinterpret our words
yeah for most most people
who knows how to forgive
knows
everybody have sin
but it depends on its magnitude
and
probably you dont have any idea
how we come unto this understanding
and also
to trace a history in any religion
doesnt make you a prophet
nor anythin especial
(only those people who were been choosen by what is good
and who doesnt lie
could see what is the real truth behind
the evil one
and you will not believed if we say unto you that there were atheist who accidently discovered it
so much for those religions who says
god is with them)
as what we've seen in the past which wasn't at all done in good conscience
even if you live much longer than you can imagine you wont be able to learn it
unless . . . ...
a hint:
just imagine again that the place
you where goin to is the place
where your own opinion doesnt exist
thats why again
never be untruthful unto all
just to push your own opinion
coz even when we ask you sometimes
and knows your answer is not really true
we still take sometime to considered
that you'll change
but
If you think you don't have it, or have it have it in your life than your fooling yourself...And then a remark about a girl who suffered the same observation ..
you dont have any idea how she suffered
becaused of some people
who says grace is all we need
when the grace that some of those people found were coming only from man
and not from god
who played their words and abuses women and children and thats how they played their game
for they abused those who are weak
just for their own personal gain
thats why
we've said those words unto you to tell you the truth
so that you may be aware of that
and again you still keep goin to misunderstood us
coz you cant simply accept the truth
for the truth is your one of those trinity believers
though were not condemning you coz your also a victim
thats why again and again
we cant imagine how someone
who says who can trace a history in any religion
and still doesn't know the truth behind those religions
by the way
you should work out your faith
unto those people
whose end is destruction, whose god is the belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who think about earthly things.
again for once and for all
you cant predict what were goin to do
and no one can
as long as they are humans
coz humans are not all knowing
and we are humans and
we are not all knowing but we are not liars
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
your observation
was base on your own opinion
and
theres nothing scientific facts
nor spiritual facts base on the bible itself
that can be consired a reliable source unto your own opinion
and your not reading
as what we've said before
theres no point to get up set nor anything
its just we've seen somethin simultaneously and then it happends that you've put those words
play and game unto your post
therefore
its not everyone's fault
thats why it flagged our response
unlike how your responsed unto our post
because it flagged your response, which means in some cases it can be considered a dishonest move
such as
it is obvious that
you will misinterpret our words
yeah for most most people
who knows how to forgive
knows
everybody have sin
but it depends on its magnitude
and
probably you dont have any idea
how we come unto this understanding
and also
to trace a history in any religion
doesnt make you a prophet
nor anythin especial
(only those people who were been choosen by what is good
and who doesnt lie
could see what is the real truth behind
the evil one
and you will not believed if we say unto you that there were atheist who accidently discovered it
so much for those religions who says
god is with them)
as what we've seen in the past which wasn't at all done in good conscience
even if you live much longer than you can imagine you wont be able to learn it
unless . . . ...
a hint:
just imagine again that the place
you where goin to is the place
where your own opinion doesnt exist
thats why again
never be untruthful unto all
just to push your own opinion
coz even when we ask you sometimes
and knows your answer is not really true
we still take sometime to considered
that you'll change
but
If you think you don't have it, or have it have it in your life than your fooling yourself...And then a remark about a girl who suffered the same observation ..
you dont have any idea how she suffered
becaused of some people
who says grace is all we need
when the grace that some of those people found were coming only from man
and not from god
who played their words and abuses women and children and thats how they played their game
for they abused those who are weak
just for their own personal gain
thats why
we've said those words unto you to tell you the truth
so that you may be aware of that
and again you still keep goin to misunderstood us
coz you cant simply accept the truth
for the truth is your one of those trinity believers
though were not condemning you coz your also a victim
thats why again and again
we cant imagine how someone
who says who can trace a history in any religion
and still doesn't know the truth behind those religions
by the way
you should work out your faith
unto those people
whose end is destruction, whose god is the belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who think about earthly things.
again for once and for all
you cant predict what were goin to do
and no one can
as long as they are humans
coz humans are not all knowing
and we are humans and
we are not all knowing but we are not liars
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
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ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> we answered everything you say
just read again those post of ours from above
though i said im gonna answered it personally but with respect
unto my brethren and my fellows and
becaused we united as one
not for our own benefits but for the salvation of all who is good and cannot lie
as they say
theres no such things
as personal relationship to god
especially that someone cant handle
its own personal opinions
but rather just to make its own opinion
as it is the personal salvation of all souls
in this reality
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
just read again those post of ours from above
though i said im gonna answered it personally but with respect
unto my brethren and my fellows and
becaused we united as one
not for our own benefits but for the salvation of all who is good and cannot lie
as they say
theres no such things
as personal relationship to god
especially that someone cant handle
its own personal opinions
but rather just to make its own opinion
as it is the personal salvation of all souls
in this reality
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
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Ben Avraham
Well-Known Member
The Jews! Trying to make the world nasty! So, what was Jesus talking about when he said that salvation comes from the Jews? And "from the Jews" he said; not from one among the Jews. Well, if to you, the Jews are making the world nasty, could it be that you are implying that the Christian Nazis were trying to make the world merciful and lovable?
Ben Avraham
Well-Known Member
What do you have as an evidence that Jesus is alive, your faith? Faith becomes obsolete in a discussion of minds. Only rationalization can be taken as a fair deal.
Ben Avraham
Well-Known Member
Indeed, no doubt about it; Jesus was also a son of God but as part of the People whom the Lord said, "Israel is My Son." (Exodus 4:22,23)
Ben Avraham
Well-Known Member
What do you mean by "double bind?" Care to enlighten me?
Ben Avraham
Well-Known Member
You are confusing universal salvation with personal salvation. To understand universal salvation, you must read the following quotes: 1. Genesis 8:21,22; 2. Jeremiah 31:35-37; and 3. John 4:22. Universal salvation is salvation from universal catastrophes of the size of the Flood. Prophet Jeremiah read the first quote in Genesis and understood that God's promise to Noah was related to the existence of Israel on earth. So, Jeremiah added his quote as the second in the change. For the third, Jesus, for sure had read the one in Genesis and the one of Jeremiah and concluded the kind of salvation that comes from the Jews. Hence, he added the third quote in John 4:22.
Now, personal salvation has to do with each one of us as the Law is concerned. Every individual is liable to set things right with God to achieve personal salvation. The opinion of Jesus was that, to achieve personal salvation we must listen to "Moses" aka the Law. (Luke 16:29-31)
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