SpeaksForTheTrees
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Obnoxious to the very coreThat's right 100% as a matter o fact.
And the uneducated have no right addressing this matter in any way.
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Obnoxious to the very coreThat's right 100% as a matter o fact.
And the uneducated have no right addressing this matter in any way.
Obnoxious to the very core
being bias free is the best factual way to seek the truth
And factually speaking, it is impossible for any individual to be bias free.
So at least we understand the less bias one possess the better the chances of seeking truth there is.
It is mostly a bunch of simple propositions (things) too frequently made more complicated than they have to be. Like the money thing... As long as you can withdraw sufficient funds, the truth of what money "is" doesn't much matter.But what do you think? Do you regard truth as being mostly a simple thing? Mostly a complex thing? Is simple truth models a characteristic of fundamentalism?
There's another thread from Halsted's essay that I'd like to throw in here:
I tend not to worry myself with other people's truth or lack of truth (hence I will offer no opinion on what he said. )"And as far as I can see, being right or having the “truth” does not necessarily make us better people, more moral people, or happier people. In fact, some of the people I know who profess great concern for “truth” are the biggest ********. I think concern about other people’s perceived lack of truth is often a cover for not dealing with our own **** — and, yes, I’m talking about myself here."
What do you guys think about this suggestion? Do you think he's on the mark here, or way off?
Only terms of some fantasy world where an individual's bias can be artificially reduced in such a manner.
I will say your factually false. And context is key, and the bias you claim is not the bias stopping people from finding the truth.
As an atheist I do not hold the bias islam factually possesses, or YEC factually possess, or orthodox jews factually possess.
My bias is factually reduced compared to these known fundamentalist groups.
Knowledge is key and it is the factual context required to better understand the truth. The more knowledge one possesses the closer to any SPECIFIC truth one seeks.
What truth? comes into play here. many truths are not complicated in any way.
Religions have a long history of fighting knowledge, also a fact.
atheistic thinking
Not a fact: a myth. It's a pretty recent phenomenon, actually.
You want to tell me exactly what that is?
As far as I know it means I don't have the bias some theist factually do
It is an empirical fact.
Religions often fight these. And they factually have for a very long time.
Nothing recent about it.
Galileo as an example. The church fought the truth and he was persecuted for his mouth, yet was seeking the truth and was more correct then the church
No, you don't have that bias. Instead, you have a different bias.
If you want to talk "long history", think millennia, not centuries.
history is what people at various times said happened
And the uneducated have no right addressing this matter in any way.
He is correct.
People fight the truth tooth and nail.
There is your side and my side, and in the middle is a very thin line known as the truth
Only if you do not understand how the ignorant cannot possibly know the truth unless luck be at their side.
While Halsted doesn't draw this connection, we might observe that those who operate based on simple models of truth have a "fundamentalist" mindset. That is to say, things are either-or, black-or-white, and there is no quarter given for interpretation or complexity.
There's another thread from Halsted's essay that I'd like to throw in here:
"And as far as I can see, being right or having the “truth” does not necessarily make us better people, more moral people, or happier people. In fact, some of the people I know who profess great concern for “truth” are the biggest ********. I think concern about other people’s perceived lack of truth is often a cover for not dealing with our own **** — and, yes, I’m talking about myself here."
Like when people get obsessed with other people's beliefs not 'factually' being objectively true, they often miss the bigger and more important picture.
Sort of like when people use the word 'factually' ad nauseam, when they often mean 'I think that...'
I think you completely missed the point of the OP.
I think you completely missed the point of the OP.