Trump or Sharia law?

[Kirran]

Given demographic trends, it will definitely become a problem at home one day.

Most people reacted, thinking I'm some white supremacist pro Trump dude. I wonder if I broke their liberal brains when they realize I'm not white, nor pro Trump and come from 0 wealth, privilege and status.

I wouldn't go so far as definitely. Ideologies and the lenses by which people see the world change over time, and by the time major demographic shifts could occur there'd be plenty of time for ideological changes.

Yeah I know you're one of those minorities we keep hearing about. But hey, it's people's ideas I find fault with, not their backgrounds.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

I come from a different cultural context (Middle Eastern) but it seems that the Left picks and chooses it's enemies and allies.

Okay, that's a simple misunderstanding then. We don't.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Given that I'm not white myself and face considerable scrutiny and troubles as a poc, I obviously cannot support white supremacists

But people in 'your camp' obviously do. Where was the right outrage when Steve Bannon, who runs an anti-semetic, misogynist and white supremacy loaded website Breitbart, was made White House strategist and senior counselor?

 

[MD]

But people in 'your camp' obviously do. Where was the right outrage when Steve Bannon, who runs an anti-semetic, misogynist and white supremacy loaded website Breitbart, was made White House strategist and senior counselor?

I don't support Trump, if anything I've been against him.

Many of my right wing views do not fall within the Republican party platform, and I do not really identify with the American Right. The American far Right would crucify me, given my background.

However most leftists here do identify with what the American left represents, and are getting angry at me rather than one of the main organizers of a massive March. An organizer who is pro Saudi Arabia and Sharia.

 

[MD]

Okay, that's a simple misunderstanding then. We don't.

You do, Sam Harris, Dawkins and Bill Maher repeatedly state that the Left defends Islamism. Are they wrong too?

 

[Kirran]

Just FYI, Maher, Dawkins and Harris don't speak for the American left wing.

 

[habiru]

All of this that is going on , it is so that the Establishment can have other countries to honor the trade agreement. But now the the trade agreement has been destroyed, and so there should be no more kissing up to other countries and their practices. .
If I enter into someone's home, I will have to abide by their rules. If I do not like their rules, I'll leave. The refugees are looking for help, but they should know that every other countries doesn't practices Islam. If they do not like it, then they should find another place to live that only practices Islam. Before they had came to this country, that they knows that this country has many different beliefs and people over here wears vagina costumes. And so they should look around for another place that the people doesn't wears vagina costumes..

 

[MD]

Just FYI, Maher, Dawkins and Harris don't speak for the American left wing.

But their critique has been spot on

 

[Kirran]

But their critique has been spot on

That's rather subjective.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I don't support Trump, if anything I've been against him.

Many of my right wing views do not fall within the Republican party platform, and I do not really identify with the American Right. The American far Right would crucify me, given my background.

However most leftists here do identify with what the American left represents, and are getting angry at me rather than one of the main organizers of a massive March. An organizer who is pro Saudi Arabia and Sharia.

This is putting words in people's mouths. You've had numerous examples within the thread, let alone withing the greater population, of people who consider themselves 'left' or were pro the Women's March who do not identify with everything every person on the left represents in their ideals. We're not a hive mind. Stop trying to treat us like one. And besides, there were a number of Republicans and Independents who also went to the women's rally, because the women's issues themselves were important to them as well. Are you saying now that both republicans and independents are also guilty by association of supporting Sharia Law?

 

[MD]

That's rather subjective.

I suppose you disagree with Hitchens as well then and his views on the Leftist support of Islamists?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

But their critique has been spot on

Actually I think they're both massive dicks who constantly trip over their own prejudices. (Hitchens too, in the past.)

 

[Kirran]

I suppose you disagree with Hitchens as well then and his views on the Leftist support of Islamists?

I don't much of what he'd said, I never followed him.

 

[MD]

This is putting words in people's mouths. You've had numerous examples within the thread, let alone withing the greater population, of people who consider themselves 'left' or were pro the Women's March who do not identify with everything every person on the left represents in their ideals. We're not a hive mind. Stop trying to treat us like one. And besides, there were a number of Republicans and Independents who also went to the women's rally, because the women's issues themselves were important to them as well. Are you saying now that both republicans and independents are also guilty by association of supporting Sharia Law?

Then why no condemnation whatsoever of the main organizers views ? Seems like your tribe is being attacked and you all rally to defend it, even if the attack is valid.

 

[MD]

Actually I think they're both massive dicks who constantly trip over their own prejudices. (Hitchens too, in the past.)

Why? What prejudices?

 

[MD]

I don't much of what he'd said, I never followed him.

Lol

 

[habiru]

 

[Kirran]

Woah, 'dicks' isn't censored? What about in the singular? Dick. EDIT: Woah.

 

[Kirran]

Lol

Why should I have? There's a lot of speakers on a lot of topics with a lot of views.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Then why no condemnation whatsoever of the main organizers views ? Seems like your tribe is being attacked and you all rally to defend it, even if the attack is valid.

The fact that you keep referring to people who are part of the left as a 'tribe' speaks loads to your over-willingness to paint with such broad strokes that nobody should take your generalizations seriously. Just like...

Why? What prejudices?

Arbitrary and inconsistent criticism of Muslims and Islam in the latter two, arbitrary and inconsistent criticism of Christianity, religions at large and feminism in Dawkin's case.