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Trump calls the Constitution "fake news":

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Subduction Zone, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. Subduction Zone

    Subduction Zone Veteran Member

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    Trump blames 'phony emoluments clause' for scrapped plan to host G-7 at his Miami resort

    Yes, even though Trump claims it is not there the Emoluments Clause is very real:

    Title of Nobility Clause - Wikipedia

    "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.[4]"

    He backed down on this because even the Republicans knew that deal stank to high heaven.
     
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  2. Shadow Wolf

    Shadow Wolf Crazy Diamond

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    Is anyone honestly surprised?
     
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  3. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Not me. What did surprise me for a while is how he's too whatever to even accept information from those in his administration that know better. His aggressive refusal to listen to facts even when they'd help him politically is something else.
     
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  4. Stanyon

    Stanyon WWMRD?

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    He wasn't going to profit if he did it at cost, it's not like he needs the money but the Republicans probably knew some would make much of it.
    Wonder what it would have cost U.S. taxpayers vs. what it will cost U.S. taxpayers.
     
  5. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    LOL, all that information, and that's the line I'm supposed to focus on? :)

    Yeah... No..! :mad:
     
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    Ouroboros Coincidentia oppositorum
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    Nope.

    He did suggest he wanted to get rid of the impeachment process at one of his rallies, and people cheered... It's almost a touch of treason...

    The problem is, he doesn't even know what the Constitution says. He doesn't even understand there are three branches of the government, and the reasons behind it. He thinks he's King Trump, and we're his servants.
     
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  7. Subduction Zone

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    When it comes to the Constitution one does not get to pick and choose. It is the law of the land.
     
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  8. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    And speaking against it is blasphemy?
     
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    Ouroboros Coincidentia oppositorum
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    It doesn't really matter if he profit on it or not. The resort has had some bad times, and getting any business is a benefit, and not to forget the advertising having all the dignitaries there. It's a gain, even if it's not in dollars in his pocket. It's not about what it costs US tax payers, but who benefits from the US tax monies.

    Personally, I think they should go along with it. It was a perfect time for the Dems to demand open books on his business and taxes. To guarantee that it was actually at cost, let's do it, and make sure all the information is produced for congress to view.
     
  10. Subduction Zone

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    No, just incredibly ignorant and foolish. Which puts it right up Trump's ally.
     
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  11. Subduction Zone

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    The exposure would be free advertising. It is not a matter of cost, he simply cannot accept what amounts to a gift. Actually this would be even worse since he would in effect be demanding a gift.
     
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    Jose Fly Fisker of men

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    No but a sitting president calling it "phony" is rather disturbing.
     
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  13. Father Heathen

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    Anyone who takes issue with the constitution isn't fit to be president.
     
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  14. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    I disagree. The 2nd amendment has been infringed upon ever since I haven't been able to buy live hand grenades.

    ...A lot of people take issue with the constitution.
     
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    You disagree with an interpretation of the Constitution. There has been no 2nd Amendment infringement. You forgot the role that the Supreme Court plays in interpreting the Constitution.
     
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    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    There is no such thing as apostasy in regards to disagreeing with the interpretations of the Supremes.

    Their interpretation is not dogma, and any president can hold whatever opinion he or she wants in regards to the Constitution.
     
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    Apostasy was your claim. You might want to get that short term memory checked.

    And yes, any President can be an idiot if he wants to be. There is nothing illegal with that.
     
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    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    Are you suggesting that only idiots criticize parts of the constitution? Or will you allow people the freedom to criticize the Constitution without denigration.

    My point still stands, that it looks like criticisms of the constitution are treated like apostasy and blasphemy.
     
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    Oh, the Constitution can be criticized. Whether a person is an idiot or not depends upon how they criticize it. And I am sorry that you do not understand when someone is truly being an idiot. The problem may be with you. If you can't see the flaws of Trump then you are apt to get confused when people rightfully criticize him.
     
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  20. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    I'll continue to refer to principles and logic over this "understanding when someone is truly being an idiot" concept... Whatever that means...
     
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