Trump calls the Constitution "fake news":

[Subduction Zone]

I'll continue to refer to principles and logic over this "understanding when someone is truly being an idiot" concept... Whatever that means...

Unfortunately cognitive dissonance disrupts "principles and logic". When you get over your Trump worship we can have a discussion.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Their interpretation is not dogma, and any president can hold whatever opinion he or she wants in regards to the Constitution.

True. But calling something that clearly exist "phony" is utter foolishness.

 

[Ouroboros]

To add to it, Trump swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. Doesn't matter what he thinks of it, he has to follow it. If he thinks it's a folly, then he shouldn't have made that oath.

 

[sealchan]

There is no such thing as apostasy in regards to disagreeing with the interpretations of the Supremes.

Their interpretation is not dogma, and any president can hold whatever opinion he or she wants in regards to the Constitution.

Taking bribes or gifts or favors is highly unethical even in standard business transactions between customers and business or between business. You have to he quite naive about standard anti-corruptions laws not to see that and pretty apathetic not to expect the standards in government should even higher.

It makes deep, practical sense to hold these standards, it is what prevents corruption and builds trust and anyone in disagreement with that should never be given any power to represent anyone. Even the appearance of favoratism or a conflict of interest should be addressed with corrective action.

We dont get to do anything we want. That sort of attitude has no place in government at all.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

And speaking against it is blasphemy?

Speaking against it? No. That's fine. Free speech is protected by...wait for it...the Constitution.
It's really a quite useful document.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I disagree. The 2nd amendment has been infringed upon ever since I haven't been able to buy live hand grenades.

...A lot of people take issue with the constitution.

So this becomes just another lie??

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

 

[Stanyon]

Anyone who takes issue with the constitution isn't fit to be president.

This applies to the 2A also correct?

 

[Subduction Zone]

This applies to the 2A also correct?

Yes.

 

[Stanyon]

The exposure would be free advertising. It is not a matter of cost, he simply cannot accept what amounts to a gift. Actually this would be even worse since he would in effect be demanding a gift.

So to you it's not an issue of tax dollars being saved it's a matter of you thinking Trump might get some free advertising which in your mind amounts to a gift.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So to you it's not an issue of tax dollars being saved it's a matter of you thinking Trump might get some free advertising which in your mind amounts to a gift.

Not just to me. Many Republicans saw the same problem.

 

[Cooky]

True. But calling something that clearly exist "phony" is utter foolishness.

In that sitting, I bet Trump spoke 2,000 words in probably 2 minutes... And while I'm sure that figure is wrong, the *point* is what Trump and myself are focusing on.

...The more you do, the higher the frequency of error. This is a natural fact.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In that sitting, I bet Trump spoke 2,000 words in probably 2 minutes... And while I'm sure that figure is wrong, the *point* is what Trump and myself are focusing on.

...The more you do, the higher the frequency of error. This is a natural fact.

The problem is that Trump is endlessly making idiotic claims.

 

[Cooky]

So this becomes just another lie??

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Until he clarifies himself, I'm not going to critique one word out of 25,000, and double down on it to claim he's attacking the constitution. That's just unfair considering he may have selected a wrong word in his speech.

 

[Cooky]

The problem is that Trump is endlessly making idiotic claims.

It's quantity over quality, I'll admit, that gets him into trouble. But that's what high-energy people often tend to do.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's quantity over quality, I'll admit, that gets him into trouble. But that's what high-energy people often tend to do.

He is not high energy.

 

[Stanyon]

Yes.

Not just to me. Many Republicans saw the same problem.

Do you have the direct quotes within context from these many republicans?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do you have the direct quotes within context from these many republicans?

Not at this time of night.

 

[Stanyon]

Not at this time of night.

It was a bold claim, much that I have found about what some republicans have said is pretty much what you said , he might benefit from advertising. Seems a pretty ridiculous idea to let taxpayers foot the bill for something that could have possibly been low or no cost because some are afraid Trump might get some advertising.

 

[dad]

Anyone who takes issue with the constitution isn't fit to be president.

Right to bear arms against a possible evil government then, if opposed by a politician makes them unfit? OK. Let's add more..right to practice religion, (such as not allowing babies to be killed) right to free speech (as opposed to political correct hate crime baloney)..etc.

I would think that the declaration and constitution and bible all are victims of leaders who want to interpret stuff for their benefit and bias.

The Trump lesson may be that not even a 'good' man could save the US in it's advanced depravity, which seems to be to the core.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do you have the direct quotes within context from these many republicans?

Still way too early, but you can read this:

Why Trump Dropped His Idea to Hold the G7 at His Own Hotel